Elijah Mohammad
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Message #113272 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) March 13, 2008 21:45:15 ET
In Reply to: Re: Torog posted by Torog (Info) March 10, 2008 07:29:12 ET
"Howdy Elijah,
Thanx for yer calm and reasoned response,yer earlier post to me and the others,came off as being somewhat hysterical."
Well, sometimes you have to be LOUD! To get your point across.
"I'm just a simple country bumpkin,raised up in the conservative Church of Christ,not the liberal one and I like my simple approach..that being that Jesus Christ is God's Son,sent to us here on earth,for our salvation and to deliver the Gospel.
For me,there is and always will be,only one Christ,Jesus Christ. I am also aware that the Catholic church has messed with the Bible and is hiding much in it's vaults in Vatican City,protected by a swedish defense force."
When does the Bible say there is only one Christ? The Bible says there are many Christs, including David, Saul, and many Kings, Prophets, and Priests. All that means is that they have been annointed with God's Holy Spirit, and also with the Holy Annointing Oil described in the book of Exodus.
"In regards to the Quran,I see that as a mostly contrived work,by an arab general,who plagarized parts of the Bible to create a tool of unification for arabs and persians to unite against Jews and Christians..I do not mean to offend you,but that's the way I see it."
Which parts have you seen evidence of Plagiarizing in? Do you also think that the writers of the New Testament were Plagiarizing the Old Testament? There would be more evidence of that, since they even use the same exact wording in many instances. In the Quran, the same stories are told, but differently, from a new perspective...that is not plagiarism....plagiarism is when you copy something someone else wrote, and try to pass it off as your own.
"Okay,I understand yer point about praying to Mecca and about other congregations,as well as yer aversion to being described as 'western'."
Praying TOWARDS Mecca....not TO Mecca :)
"I agree with yer rape analogy too..if the rapists weren't slain,our liberal courts would wind up accusing the woman of provoking the rape and she would be the one on trial,not her attackers,per se."
Yup, it happens all the time.
"If you don't have an Imam,are you guided by a cleric ? Are you currently attending a mosque ?"
I am guided by God alone. I may have other people help me with some research, but I don't accept any other person's opinion as scripture.....only the Quran, and anything or anyone whose message is in accordance with it. I do not attend a Mosque for pretty much the same reason I haven't attended a church regularly....because I am guided by God alone. I may have other people help me with some research, but I don't accept any other person's opinion as scripture.....only the Quran, and anything or anyone whose message is in accordance with it. Most Mosques, Churches and Temples generally aren't, in my opinion. If I find one that is, I will attend it regularly, however.
"Also,what of the hoped for-12th imam,have you heard tell of that ? There's a book out by a former muslim,that details such and is a warning to democratic goverments that there's a muslim equivalent of the return of a 'saviour',I'm attaching the pic of it,to show you what I mean,not to offend you.
Have a good one ..."
I believe that there will be two witnesses in the end who will preach the correct message from the scriptures, and do miracles, and strike the earth with plagues, and be killed and resurrected by God before the judgement of the seven vials of his wrath....anyone who repents in a timely manner, and believes in the One Most High God, and does good works I believe, will be saved from hell by God. What that has to do with the 12th Imam, I'm not sure. There are writings that say he already came over a thousand years ago....some believe he has been miraculously preserved until the last days to come forward and teach the truth and face the Antichrist (Dajjal) with Jesus, who will also return. I'm not quite sure of this though. I do believe that the righteous will triumph over the wicked.
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