Elijah Mohammad
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Message #113274 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) March 13, 2008 22:54:17 ET
In Reply to: Re: Torog posted by forged registration (Info) March 13, 2008 22:05:14 ET
"your honour, i submit into evidence exhibit A: the bible
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according to many christians, the bible is the literal word of god, and god orders and smiled upon the slaughter of women and children and babies (who are always innocent, as they are incapable of performing evil actions):
in the book of joshua:
6:15 And it came to pass on the seventh day, that they rose early about the dawning of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner seven times: only on that day they compassed the city seven times.
6:16 And it came to pass at the seventh time , when the priests blew with the trumpets, Joshua said unto the people, Shout; for the LORD hath given you the city.
6:17 And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live , she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
6:18 And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it.
6:19 But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD.
6:20 So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."
There is no specific mention of babies here....nor of innocent people.
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"Psalm 137: 8-9: "O daughter of Babylon, who are to be destroyed, happy the one who repays you as you have served us! Happy the one who takes and dashes your little ones against the rock!"
Nowhere is it said that the action is the correct action to do, however, in this verse. I asked for verses where God specifically commands, and the command is recorded as being enacted to kill babies or innocent people....there is no command of God in this verse. People are happy for all kinds of sick reasons.
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Numbers 31 (nastiness edited for brevity)
31:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
31:2 Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.
31:6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand.
31:7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.
31:9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Moses tells the Israelites to kill every male and all the non-virgin females, but to keep the virgins for themselves.
Is it wrong to commit adultery?
31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.
31:31 And Moses and Eleazar the priest did as the LORD commanded Moses.
31:32 And the booty, being the rest of the prey which the men of war had caught, was six hundred thousand and seventy thousand and five thousand sheep,
31:33 And threescore and twelve thousand beeves,
31:34 And threescore and one thousand asses,
31:35 And thirty and two thousand persons in all, of women that had not known man by lying with him."
Here, as well, there is no specific mention made that there were any babies present, nor innocent people, who were killed.
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"1 Samuel 15:3 "Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.""
Alright, here is one verse. Why not just skip right to the one and only verse that has what you were looking for, instead of posting other verses that do not fit the criteria of evidence? But then, I am not a Christian who believes that the whole Bible is the literal word of God. I think those two words that you found in that verse that would prove the God of the Bible's command of this awful order are one of the numerous insertions of Pagan corruption inserted into the text by Pagans who had control of it in different time periods. This is probably one of the verses that so adversely affects Torog with his desire to see innocent people and babies be killed by American and other troops with America, as well as by Nuclear Weapons. There is a proof that helps show how this is an insertion (even though, in other cases, the inserters were sure to bypass this sign purposefully, in this case, they did not, as far as I know). That proof being the legal requirement of two witnesses at least. There is only one witness, one instance of this accusation against God in the Bible...thus, it is not admissible as proof in court, because there is no backup corroboration.
"your honour, the evidence clearly shows in the infallible almight god's own words, the mention of many babies being killed in the actual slaughter that god ordered....thus, not only is there clear first person evidence FOR there being many babies present, there is also first person evidence AGAINST there being any babies surviving in one case.
does the defence rest, or should i post more of god's greatest hits?"
The defense will rest on the assertion that the Bible is not guilty as a whole of this charge (promoting killing of babies on the assumption of God's orders) only if one more witness (example) can be brought forward to corroborate and strengthen the testimony of the other...that being 1 Samuel 15:3. The case will not be dismissed on lack of evidence at this point, however, as there is now some worthiness to consider further possible evidence.
Prosecution, do you have further evidence, or another witness (example) from the Bible?
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