Elijah Mohammad
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Message #114408 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 07, 2008 00:04:04 ET
In Reply to: Re: U.S. is bombing Somalia (again) posted by HydroHog (Info) May 06, 2008 15:47:05 ET
"So if I have this straight.....except for Torog everyone thinks that the only way you can ever go after your enemy is if you make 100%sure that not one innocent life is taken in the process.
I'm afraid that's not realistic.
By that logic we should not have responded to Pearl Harbor unless we were 100% sure that every single Japenese person we killed had a hand in that particular attack."
There were American's who had a hand in that particular attack....maybe we should have focused on them first. They made certain that Pearl Harbor would happen without a defense....they even moved all the good boats out and away before the attack so that we would only lose our old and not as tip-top boats and some soldiers. In addition to that, it was international bankers who instigated that, as well as all of the other major wars since at least the time of the War of 1812. I think it would make perfect sense to go after our collective warmonger enemies without killing one innocent person....all we would need is the rest of the population of the world and some swords. We make a simple declaration that there is to be a World Jubilee day, and all wealth gained from usury is to be returned to the population at large. We take away the Supreme Court rulings and UN laws that make Corporations legally have the same rights as people, and confiscate all wealth of banks. Then, everyone takes a nice, piece of land not owned by an individual person, and grows their own food on it and lives rent and income tax free. If there is aggression against any nation in the form of a military invasion, every able citizen who is not afraid will go to meet the invaders on the battlefield with all weaponry available. In such a world, without the kind of kingdoms we have today, there would be no such thing as the kinds of war we see today.
"We won World War II by non stop bombing of cities filled with women and children. After the war was over we spent years in Germany going after Nazi Loyalist. Kinda like we're spending years in Iraq going after bathist and Al Queda Loyalist."
We won WWII because we had more resources available for quick use than any other nation. We didn't HAVE to bomb women and children.
"Like anything else when you go after sharks you are bound to get one or two dolphins caught in the net."
Not if you use a fishing line instead.
"I believe Torog and I call that common sense. Most of the rest of you call it genocide."
Yes, it's common sense to rape the ocean of its resources and also every nation, and to leave a trail of death and destruction in our wake for profit. NOT! We can get by just fine without huge commercial fishing nets and bombing and shooting civilians....with a lot more common sense, according to civilians in war zones....why don't we subject you to living in a war zone for a while and see if you change your mind about what is common sense and what isn't.
"It's things like this that make me think America may be doomed as a nation. There are simply getting to be more and more pissheads, mohammed's, and forged's. And not enough Torog's. It's no wonder nutjob dictator's think we are ripe for the taking. And they won't worry about innocent blood spilled when the time comes.
HOG"
No, they don't worry about innocent blood, which is why nutjob dictator's usually end up assassinated, and without the need to kill innocent people. This is also why nations who are indiscriminate about taking war to civilians also end up being destroyed. You may not realize it, but America and every other nation is already doomed because of their evil practices and oppression. I have discussed this many times with Torog, whom you want there to be more of, and that is his point of view as well, that all nations will be destroyed....thus, I can understand your point of view much better than his....as he thinks that America is evil, yet still supports its policies....you, it seems, do not share this opinion, thus, your support of American policies, I understand in a certain context.
I do think it is wrong, though.....murdering innocent people cannot be a right thing to do.....I know this because I put myself in the shoes of some innocent baby in a foreign land....I wouldn't want to suffer for a week with my body torn to shreds by shrapnel, before dying a painful and exhausting death....and for what? Because some asshole thinks that he has the right to throw around dangerous things near me in order to gain more power over what he considers to be evil...now THAT is evil....."But Saddam was throwing pencils across the room at Bobby! It was common sense for me to throw pencils across the room at Saddam, teacher! I didn't mean to poke Suzie's eye out, honest!"
"Too bad son, you're still being expelled....both you and Saddam.....you don't throw pencils across a crowded classroom. It would have just been a little detention if you would have gone across the room and punched Saddam in the face....and only he would have been expelled!"
Peace to those who make it.
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