Libertarian Toker
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Message #114435 posted by Libertarian Toker (Info) May 08, 2008 10:47:32 ET
In Reply to: Re: Superman!!!! Woooot!~ posted by Torog (Info) May 08, 2008 06:13:29 ET
"I never thought of Islam being my religious enemy,until I went to Saudia and discovered that they had already made enemies with me,simply because I am a Christian."
So you do think of them as "religious" enemys and you fight them in a religious war. Hmmm, sounds just like a jihadist. How do you plan to defeat a religion torog?
"Ever since the '79 Iran hostage event,it became obvious to me,that Islam was gonna be America's enemy,not just Israel's foe"
Hate and grudges don't go good with your gods advise to forgive. Its been a long time torog, let it go.
"however-I was more focused on the guilty parties at the time and not so much that Islam is pure poison and corrupts all that it touches and serves as a perfect venue for anyone with a chip on their shoulder towards their fellow man."
You sound to me more like the one with a chip that harbors hate for their fellow man.
"Islam is pure poison and corrupts all that it touches"
How will you defeat it? What does it look like to win over islam? What will you force them to do? When you force their religion to change to suit you, will you then call it giving them freedom? You seek to make war on the world to change, or destroy a religion. Yet, for some reason you think that is spreading freedom. Freedom of religion is not just for some torog, its for all. After reading what jihad actually means, I take back that you are like that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
"In all of the years I went to church,I was never once told that Islam was my religious enemy or that I must fight such."
Think about that some torog.
"After the 9/11/01 WTC attack,every American should have realized that Islam is enemies with everyone-no matter whether ya believe in God and Jesus or not,if ya ain't muslim-then you are their enemy-period."
Hateful grudges. Islam did not attack US torog, some crazy religious extreemist like you did. You openly attack their religion on a world wide scale and call it giving them freedom. How fucking stupid do ya gotta be to believe that?
"You are considered one of the worst kind of infidels,you knew God-then turned yer back on Him and His Son,Jesus Christ..for infidels such as you,they will not show any mercy or compassion..you are to be treated as a rabid dog."
Your BS doesn't scare me torog. Your so full of shit your eyes are brown. You turn your back on your god while claiming to serve him. Seems like christians are worse to me, as I have never been treated as rabid by islam, but christians have done it a lot. Have you ever proclaimed to be an athiest to a room full of christians? Not treated poorly? LOL!
"And you want to make peace with these kind of people ?"
Yes! If I can do it with jews and all the BS they spew in their religion about me and you, and I can do it with you, then I see no reason not to be able to have peace with islam. We have peace with SA, do we not? We are at peace with a lot of islamic countrys. Muslims have fought and died in our military defending freedom, or w/e. Muslims have done great good for the world on many fronts. Muslims have, and will continue to be, part of this world whether you like it or not. You keep screaming how much you don't want to find peace, work for peace, or even think that its possible. You won't look for it. Guess what torog? If you won't look for peace, you will never find it.
"Stop twisting my words-I don't hate the people of America,just because I say that there are evil people here"
Oh I think its clear that there are people in our country that you hate. There was no twisting needed.
"remember,I'm supposed to love the sinner and hate the sin."
But you don't follow your gods rules anyway. I mean, do you apply that to muslims? NO, you don't.
"You have alot of gall-to be preachin at me..lol."
Whys that torog? Your religion is clear for all to see. It is very clear that you don't follow it. Do you not like the things I point out to you about your faith and your religion? Seems to me that you would welcome any attempts at making you a better christian. I guess not. Better to treat any athiest like a rabid dog, and ignore what he says even if hes right. Hell, even more so if hes right as who does he think he is to be right about your religion?
"Now tell me why it is I must do these things ya describe and not you ?"
Because I am not a christian like you. Your god demands it from you. I have no god demanding these things from me. You have a set of rules your god has given you. You do not follow those rules. If a good man follows the rules of god, whats that make you for not following them?
"You expect me to rise to a whole different level of morality-yet you don't intend on ever doing the same because you shucked yer responsibility by turning away from God."
I do expect you to be as moral as you claim to be. I expect you to follow the laws of your god if your going to wield your god as a sword across the world. The reason you can not follow your gods words is because what you want goes directly agaisnt your gods words.
"what kind of a person,does that make you ?"
I don't know, a worse one then you? Your one to speak of responsability to god. LOL! You ignore him at every turn.
"Why would I,or any other Christian,take yer advice on anything ?"
Why would you not take my advise if it is good advise? Oh, thats right, you wish to treat me like a dog because I am not of your faith. I am a lower class then you christians are. Not to be listened to.
"It simply would not make sense to take advice from an atheist,about Christian matters."
Your god works in strange ways torog. Personally, I think I have hit a few nails on the head, and there is nothing you can do or say other then to hide from it by claiming I am not worthy of disscusing your religion with. Your to good for that. Its but a tail tucking though, as you run to hide yelping along the way....
"Being an atheist,means that ya can set the 'bar' of morality,as high or as low-as ya want,huh ?"
Nope, if its wrong its wrong. Plain and simple. Say torog, why is it a crime in your eyes to have more then one wife?
Toker
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