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Re: Obama on religion and politics
puffgeezer
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Message #173425 posted by puffgeezer (Info) March 18, 2008 10:25:33 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama on religion and politics posted by Dabullz (Info) March 17, 2008 23:48:57 ET

DB/Shootist,

I'm quite conflicted about all this. If there were a level playing field, I'd be far less inclined to support increased taxes for the rich (or anyone), but it isn't a level playing field, in part because of the tax system already in place which favors the Golden Class.

For example, the outrageous salaries and bonuses being collected, especially by failed senior execs, is one of the most destructive elements of our culture. The obscene levels of compensation breed contempt, cynicism, and loss of confidence in the system by the large majority of citizens. The extraordinary levels of compensation are determined not by just the free market, but largely by mutual back scratching. Competent execs would be lined up for senior management positions at a fraction of the compensation being paid these days.

All else being equal, I'd say let the rich be richer, but all else isn't equal, and we have to start from where we are, not from where we would like it to be. If we're going to condone legal theft via the tax system, we at least need to have some honor among thieves. It is immoral, IMO, to let the current system remain intact.

With that said, we'll not solve our social and fiscal ills by simply throwing more money at them which tends to make our problems more severe and entrenched. The current system spawns a destructive dependence on government and loss of personal responsibility. The best path will likely be a compromise rather than rigid adherence to a given set of political principles. Transcending the increasing polarization is our only salvation, which is why Obama's mindset is resonating with me.

So educate me, show me the errors of my thinking, and help me resolve some of the conflict I feel about all this.

Puff



 Chronological List of All Messages in Thread 
173390  3/16/08  Obama on religion and politics (Thread)  puffgeezer  
173397  3/16/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Dabullz  
173399  3/17/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Finger Hash  
173402  3/17/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Higherminded  
173404  3/17/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  puffgeezer  
173407  3/17/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  forged registration  
173420  3/17/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Shootist  
173421  3/17/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  puffgeezer  
173423  3/17/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Dabullz  496 KB
173425  3/18/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  puffgeezer  
173426  3/18/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Dabullz  
173427  3/18/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  puffgeezer  
173428  3/18/08  rentier class and equality  forged registration  
173429  3/18/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  The Sage  
173432  3/18/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  puffgeezer  
173433  3/18/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Shootist  
173436  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Higherminded  31 KB
173440  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  mrblues  
173446  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Shootist  
173448  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Higherminded  
173450  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Dabullz  
173451  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Higherminded  
173452  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Higherminded  
173453  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Dabullz  
173454  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Higherminded  
173455  3/19/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Dabullz  
173457  3/20/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  puffgeezer  
173460  3/20/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  mrblues  
173467  3/20/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Shootist  
173498  3/22/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  mrblues  
173499  3/22/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  mrblues  
173548  3/23/08  Re: Obama on religion and politics  Shootist  
       
 

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