Dabullz
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Message #173426 posted by Dabullz (Info) March 18, 2008 11:28:53 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama on religion and politics posted by puffgeezer (Info) March 18, 2008 10:25:33 ET
Puff, obviously Shoot, if he chooses to do so, will provide a far more
insightful, erudite, specific and overall cogent answer than I, the bastard! ;)~
I will take a few of your arguments and counter them with the dull edge of
my understanding.
The tax system does not favor the Golden Class. The Golden Class already
funds the entire federal government. You and I have traded statistics
regarding this reality. The top 5% of income earners pay 50% of the total tax
burden, the top 15% pay 85%, and the bottom 50% pay only 5%.
Mind you, many of these folks aren't already wealthy i.e. physicians who
finish residency with $200,000 of medical school loans pay the same
percentage of their income than a CEO of Kraft. I would gather that a
majority of those who are in the 5% have an overall negative net worth if you
factor in a mortgage.
You make an argument regarding the outrageous salaries/bonuses of CEOs
and other higher management folks. You also suggest many others would do
the same job for much less. I would argue that you are making a fallacious
assumption that successfully managing a massive corporation is somehow
possible for many folks. If that were the case, then the compensation, in our
free market, would be far less. There are very sound reasons why a CEO
might make $50,000,000 per year in salary and bonuses while the janitor of
my children's school makes $16,000 per year.
Very, very few people have the ability to run a Fortune 500 company. Hence,
the compensation level. We see this in every industry. Tiger Woods made
$80,000,000 last year. Only he is skilled enough to demand such pay in his
field. The examples of abuse that you use are indeed disgusting, yet, I
believe that this is the exception rather than the rule.
You also suggest that the level field isn't even. I argue quite the opposite if
you are talking about the larger "systems" of our society. For instance, in my
son's 2nd grade class, any one of those kids have the same opportunity to
become a CEO, Senator, Physician as any other. The Clintons, both of them,
came from lower middle class backgrounds and have risen to the greatest
heights. As has Mr. Obama.
The biggest determinant, IMO, the one that the gubbyment can't change, is
the family. The little orphan in the picture I posted - think about him - put
him in a functioning family that values education, and guess what? He will
be successful.
I appreciate that Mr. Obama has surely shown the ability to speak of
transcending this and that. Speaking and doing are 2 very different animals -
he has shown very little ability to actually do any transcending and has been
slowly exposed for what he really is - a far left ideologist.
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