infertile
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Message #173575 posted by infertile (Info) March 24, 2008 14:21:59 ET
In Reply to: Re: happy easter posted by bum (Info) March 24, 2008 11:59:52 ET
Hey bum
the reason I say it does not fit practically or reasonably is that most of us live in places where the raising of any meat livestock, even small ones like chickens, rabbits, or pigeons, is forbidden by local ordinances and custom. The slaughter of our own meat would require facilities most of us don't possess, blood gutters, serious cutting boards, serious knives and saws. Further, it requires skills for which there are few teachers - you don't want to mingle fecal matter with your fresh meat, I for one, don't really know how to properly skin my skinnables or pluck my birds.
I think pigs have it worse mainly because there are so many more of them suffering than veal calves. And they tend to suffer longer than veal calves, and many states have banned the veal crate. Sure the foie gras goose is in a bad state, too, but i see few people considering that their avian brains transmit anywhere near the complexity of pain signals which are reckoned to mammal, especially advanced mammals like pigs.
You are advancing a position on either/both ethics or religious grounds. you reckon that the pain of a laying hen is a thing that ought to be considered. Because it ought to be considered you don't eat eggs and think we shouldn't - here is where I think you cross the line from ethics to religion, because you project your consciousness onto us.
I see a general movement towards recognizing and reducing animal suffering. It is laudable, but it isn't a big issue for me. When I work for animal welfare folks, i help them frame their message in a way that will have more impact. Politically, these guys are smart. They want to take whatever wins they can get. That is why horse slaughter legislation advances. Are horses more deserving of protection based on their intelligence or their pain? Not really, but we think they are a lot more noble than pigs. Gradually, the agenda of the animal welfare people, who are actually animal rights people and activist vegans, will advance. That is ok, I make some pretty good vegan dishes, too. But my religion is somewhere else and it abides suffering. and pork, foie gras (and most other livers) and veal area delicious. Eggs too.
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