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Getting started, maybe
bl1959

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Message #18601 posted by bl1959 (Info) January 15, 2007 19:38:40 ET

I'm thinking my only option is to grow outdoors. Hidden from everyone in a remote location. Thing is I've never grown before. Now don't take this as a request for a seed source but I have been wondering where to get seeds. Back in the day it wasn't a problem for me, they came with the product. But now I haven't had much product. So I was wondering if seeds even come with product these days. If they do are they good? Are plants completely male or female? I'm guessing the nice female plants I see in pictures don't have seeds. But then again back in the day the product had seeds and still would perform nicely. Any help would be appreciated.



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george j warner

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Message #18602 posted by george j warner (Info) January 16, 2007 09:08:55 ET
In Reply to: Getting started, maybe posted by bl1959 (Info) January 15, 2007 19:38:40 ET

"back in the day" those seeds you found were hermaphrodite seeds ,nower days with an advanced level of control on the plants growing cycle most "product" doesn't have seeds in.
the product that does normally was grown by a home grower or someone that "winged it" but those seeds will still be hermies and shouldn't be grown . as you didnt state which country you lived in usa or uk . here is a website for seeds for the usa
dont use seeds banks you havent seen before or that other growers havent ordered from as they might fuck you over and at worse get the DEA involved ...there are a few quality seed banks for usa ordering which seed boutique is one

www.seedboutique.com

if your from the uk take your pick lol, all of them are ok the best that i have found are

www.seedboutique.com
www.everyonedoesit.com
www.potseeds.co.uk
www.ganja.co.uk
www.marijuana-cannabis-seeds.co.uk

hope this helps

peace




Re: Getting started, maybe
bl1959

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Message #18603 posted by bl1959 (Info) January 17, 2007 20:52:41 ET
In Reply to: Re: Getting started, maybe posted by george j warner (Info) January 16, 2007 09:08:55 ET

Hey, thanks alot George. I really appreciate the help. But I'm still not sure what I want to do. I'm really nervous about getting things through the mail. I figure the less I do it the better. So what about getting some seeds, and allowing some to pollenate. That way there would be alot of seeds and I may not need to order again. I know a male plant has low or no activity and a non-pollenated female has the most activity, but I would guess that a pollenated female has something in between. So I might get something which provides seeds and some activity?

Do you know what prompts flowering in the outdoor plant? I know its got something to do with the amount of sunlight versus darkness. But if you plant one batch early in the spring and another in the mid summer, would they flower at around the same time?

Once again I appreciate the help.




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george j warner

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Message #18604 posted by george j warner (Info) January 19, 2007 14:50:45 ET
In Reply to: Re: Getting started, maybe posted by bl1959 (Info) January 17, 2007 20:52:41 ET

yer getting stuff thought the mail is always dodgy ,but think of it like this ... the "stuff" isnt illegal its what you use it for that is "questionable" so dont combine stuff that spells out to anyone what your doing ...this is easy get things from different places : )
problem solved ...

seeds ... you either order some feminized (all female) seeds from seedboutique and grow 1 mums now inside and clone off it ,then plant the clones outside when the time is right OR
you by 2 sets of seeds one feminized and one regular(both male and female)and have 2 planting sites away from each other and when they flower you get some cotton buds and rub off some pollen from the males at grow site B and rubs them into the lower branches (mark them) on a female at site A. then kill site B or you can just have the site B just for seeds

the thing about growing males and females together you cant control the amount of seeds your gona get so growing 2 sets away from each other means you can control the seeds and the bud

personally ...growing a mum inside is the better option as you only have to us 1 seed! out of 10 ! and then you can either grow the mum inside and flower it , keep it as a mum growing all year for next season or just put it outside with the rest ....... so the worse case you use 1 seed a year .....10 years of growing from 1 pack of feminized seeds and as many plants as you want ! (clones)

outdoor light ...
the outdoor plants flower the same as indoor lights and all the plants on the planet ,yer right the light cycle ...for weed its when the light changes to 12 hours on 12 hour off( as we say 12/12 )(veg time is called 18/6)

and yes the plants would flower at the same time ...its nothing todo with the plants (normally) it todo with the light : )

peace




Re: Getting started, maybe
bl1959

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Message #18605 posted by bl1959 (Info) January 19, 2007 21:22:24 ET
In Reply to: Re: Getting started, maybe posted by george j warner (Info) January 19, 2007 14:50:45 ET

Thanks again George. I may be able to grow some inside but it would have to be stealthy, which I've read is not that easy (I can't hide a cow - one of my favorite post reads). I've got a pretty good place for it but I don't know.

If a plant grows indoors, and never is allowed to flower, what would happen to it? Would it stop growing at a certain height? Would it die at a certain age?




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george j warner

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Message #18606 posted by george j warner (Info) January 20, 2007 16:06:48 ET
In Reply to: Re: Getting started, maybe posted by bl1959 (Info) January 19, 2007 21:22:24 ET

true hidding a cow isnt easy but you can get away with half a cow on its hind legs sitting up : )

the size of a wardrobe is all you need
you only need a mum and a small veg chamber you can fit all that in a wardrobe

3ft wide by 2ft deep by 6ft tall for a big system or

2ft wide by 1.5ft deep by 6ft tall for a normall size one

2ft wide by 1.5ft deep by 5 ft tall for a small one

the mum wouldnt die ,wouldnt flower, would stop growing at a certain height if you keep it under a florecent light 18/6 it will last as long as you want it to
and worse case if you didnt flower inside the mum flowers naturally then you either kill it or stick it outside then just replace it with a clone you have already cut and rooted : )

think it over




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