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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18622 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 16, 2007 18:04:35 ET Think these links are pretty much all I need? http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/outdoorcult_guide.php http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/growingoutdoors_guide.php http://www.1stmarijuanagrowerspage.com/growing-marijuana-outdoors-3.html If not any links or advice would be really appreciated.

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CitrusHigh Registered on Nov-30-2002 More User Info Message #18623 posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 17, 2007 01:28:28 ET In Reply to: First timer posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 16, 2007 18:04:35 ET I recommend a good thorough throttling of the overgrow FAQ's if you haven't already done so. Overgrow is gone, but lives on here... http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/growfaq/GrowFAQ%20Basic%20Topics.htm Best o' luck to ya mate. Citrus

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18625 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 17, 2007 13:03:46 ET In Reply to: Also.... posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 17, 2007 01:28:42 ET Thanks man. Also I have kind of a weird question. I live in a city where the impoverished side of it has a lot of forest areas that people don't know about. One of them used to be a small one way road that goes about a mile in and if you drive down it you have to reverse it all the way back. Thing is they put huge stones in front of it a couple years ago so no cars can come through which is great. People used to dump their garbage there all the time. Now to the weird part. I guess there is a lot of contamination in the ground over there from old factories and what not and people have been getting cancer just from living on their street for over a decade. I was wondering if I used my own soil could it still affect my girls? I don't want radiation tree and shit you know? I'm pretty sure I could do a decent grow from what I know now so any quick suggestions on a great and easy to get together soil mix? I feel like I decided to do this a little late so I'm trying to figure out everything I need to do fast. Thanks again and happy Patty's.

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CitrusHigh Registered on Nov-30-2002 More User Info Message #18628 posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 21, 2007 10:32:36 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 17, 2007 13:03:46 ET First off I should warn you not to expect to harvest anything first time around. Growing some weed isn't that difficult, but making to harvest is. If animals don't get your plants, and the weather doesn't, then people prob will. You'd be surprised how few places, even seemingly remote places never see human disruption. I remember my first outdoor grow, way back near a nature preserve wear no one ought to even have been, but my plant, my beautiful plant was still yanked. So I suggest you lower your expecations a little and just try to get through the season best you can and gain experience from it, if you do harvest something, all the better. But I can tell you it's far better to have low expecations and be pleasantly surprised than to have high ones and be let down miserably. With that said, you can grow in the area, it is unlikely their will be any chems carried to the plant. Best of luck to you. Citrus

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18629 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 21, 2007 17:01:27 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 21, 2007 10:32:36 ET Thanks for the advice. This is more of a side project experimental type thing and so pretty much what you said... If it goes well then great and if it doesn't I'll learn from the experience. Good to know the grow spot will be alright. Just had the first thunderstorm and its humid out so its getting closer to the time. I'm going to seed not sprout btw.

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CitrusHigh Registered on Nov-30-2002 More User Info Message #18630 posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 22, 2007 12:00:45 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 21, 2007 17:01:27 ET Any particular reason for seeding and not sprounting? Personally I must recommend at least germinating first, if not starting them for a few weeks indoors. Good Luck either way. Citrus

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* del... * Board Moderator Premier Member Registered on Feb-22-2000 More User Info Message #18631 posted by del... (Info) March 22, 2007 14:21:11 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 22, 2007 12:00:45 ET yeah, very few seedlings that are left unattended will make it past the insects...then come the rodents and after them the larger animals including humans. then there's the weather and leo... i've done a few guerilla grows and each time we'd be damn lucky to have 1 or 2 out of 40-some clones scattered around the wetlands make it thru to harvest...and i'd forget about scattering seeds...for one thing, who's going to pull the males? if you're serious about this you'll be starting seeds or cutting clones now and vegging them for at least a month before turning em loose...

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18632 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 22, 2007 16:16:55 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by del... (Info) March 22, 2007 14:21:11 ET Hmm... Well I have about 300 assorted strains to scatter so thats why I was gonna seed and not sprout. I'm figuring I could harvest at least one plant whether its small or high yield. I'm gonna make a map of my places and when it comes time I'm gonna go back and pull the males on whats left of the plants. So do you really think I should germinate them and then put them in or sprout them in maybe jiffy's in a window sill? I'm trying to keep this outdoor as much as possible you know what I'm saying?

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18633 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 22, 2007 16:37:00 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 22, 2007 16:16:55 ET A lot of the links on that Overgrow guide or down but its all good. I've been reading and I guess what I'm working with is called a valley bottom. Sorry for the double post.

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CitrusHigh Registered on Nov-30-2002 More User Info Message #18634 posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 24, 2007 01:37:27 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 22, 2007 16:37:00 ET Be careful with gullies, valleys, and other lowlands as they can be prone to flooding. When I was still green to growing I planted near the highscool soccer field which happened to be a very low point in deed. As it happened we had heavy rains when the plants (skunk x haze, (*sob)) were about 20 inches high they were flooded and sat underwater for a day, and there were in fact schools of carp swimming past them as I waded in to salvage them. Fortunately they are hardy plants and after some emergency action and a week rehab period they were again looking healthy, but I did in fact almost lose them. Just a thought. Citrus

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18637 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 30, 2007 16:05:31 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 24, 2007 01:37:27 ET I pretty much dug a drainage ditch coming down from the bottom of my side of the hill rows. The soil seems pretty decent... Lots of greenage and earthworms and whatnot. I'm going to see if I can get manure to add in with the normal soil. Anything else I should be putting in? I want the ph to be okay and everything but I don't have a lot of time to make the amendments. Also if I can't get ahold of manure got any suggestions on cheap solutions as there are going to be a lot of these sites. For flowering I'm going to use Peter's 20 20 20 All Purpose Plant Food. Also I'm about to start the beans in jiffy pots in whatever soil mixture (including the original) that I'm going to be using full time.

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18638 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 30, 2007 19:02:03 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 30, 2007 16:05:31 ET Double post sorry... Alright so this is what I got today. A 70 pod self watering jiffy gro green house, some jiffy pots, soil starting mix, organic bonemeal, organic bloodmeal, and Scott's All Purpose 10 10 10 Flower And Vegetable Continuous Release Plant Food crystals for the fertilizer. Now what the hell do I do and what else do I need? lol sorry.

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CitrusHigh Registered on Nov-30-2002 More User Info Message #18639 posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 31, 2007 10:26:05 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 30, 2007 19:02:03 ET I'm personally a wholisitic type so I don't use anything non organic in my grows and I suggest the same to everyone else. Starting your plants should be in a neutral soil so as not to burn the roots. Two weeks after they sprout you can put them in ferted soil. I would also recommend that you germinate your seeds before sowing them. My favorite method is to put them in to distilled or pure spring water that is somehow slightly heated. I used to use an old heat rock that I bought for a snake I once had, but anything that will raise it up to 73-78F degrees is good. This is the fastest method of sprouting I've come across. Make sure not to leave them in too long or other things will begin to grow on them. If a seed has not sprouted after 48 hours with this method it probably won't at all. So get started with your jiffy pots. I assume you know how to use them. Remember that peat dries out very easily so you will need to keep an eye on them. you don't want them too wet or too dry. Keep them pretty warm and more humid than not. Open them up at least once a day for a while to get some fresh air. Between two and four weeks from sprout you can transplant either to your permanent grow site or simply larger containers with rich soil, your seedlings will have a better chance of making it outdoors if you keep them inside for up to two months, but you also don't want to miss out on too much spring sunshine so I would have them out no later than mid may. If I were you I would just use some good clean soil add a few parts blood meal, a few parts bone meal (not too much of either, they are powerful ferts), and get ahold of some worm castings(droppings) of which you can add as much as you like. For exact soil mixes you can check out overgrow and there are other places online, just type in cannabis soil mixes using google. As far as needing anything else, you should be good for now, you have the essentials and you need to get past the sprouting step first anyways. Good luck. Citrus

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18640 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 31, 2007 12:03:32 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by CitrusHigh (Info) March 31, 2007 10:26:05 ET Thanks to both of you by the way. I'll use a heating pad and a dark tupperware (no light) container to germinate in with bottled watter lol. Then the jiffy pots with jiffy mix and I'll leave them to grow in a window sill. After I put them in the jiffy pots after germination I can have them in light right? I'll prepare the site with the castings, bone meal, blood meal, a soil mixture, probably some original soil too, and eventually a fertilizer. When I use the fertilizer I dilute the crystals in water and directly spray it onto the plant during flowering right? Do you think the Scott's 10 10 10 All Purpose will work fine? Once again I apologize for my all over the place messy ass thread but I really appreciate the input and help you guys have given me.

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18641 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 31, 2007 12:52:08 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 31, 2007 12:03:32 ET How about some Black Gold All Organic, the blood and bone meal, maybe some vermiculite(?), and I did end up getting a ph tester so some liquid lime to go along with it just in case ph is too low.

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terrawrist1 Registered on Dec-16-2006 More User Info Message #18642 posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 31, 2007 22:15:52 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 31, 2007 12:52:08 ET Ended up getting pelletized lime so how much lime should I add per point of wanted PH? Also should I get a different fert? Still gotta find a good soil mix. I've been rushing around to different cities to get all my shit haha but its been fun so far. Hopefully this will be an enjoyable experience with a small or big reward... Doesn't matter which.

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CitrusHigh Registered on Nov-30-2002 More User Info Message #18647 posted by CitrusHigh (Info) April 02, 2007 09:56:00 ET In Reply to: Re: Also.... posted by terrawrist1 (Info) March 31, 2007 22:15:52 ET I would recommend keeping it simple first time around. Stick with the castings, blood and bone meal and you'll be fine. DO NOT ever spray anything on to your flowering plants, I would not even recommend water. Foliar(spray) feeding is completely unneccessary but can be done during veg, however during flowering it is an absolute NO, your buds will absorb what you spray on not to mention it will form a layer on the outside of your plant and you will end up smoking it. Keep it simple first time around. You can test your soil once you have your mix if it needs mending you can then add lime. But you shouldn't be adding so many ferts that it significantly acidifies your soil anyways. Remember most do not harvest their first time around so this is just testing the waters for you. If it were me the only thing I would have to grow with is the soil from grow location, water, sun and some germinated seed. This way you can learn about growing in it's natural form, THEN expound upon that with subsequent grows. Anyhow, good luck whatever you decide. Citrus

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