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blotted leaves

wingwang Registered on May-28-2006 More User Info Message #17345 posted by wingwang (Info) January 03, 2007 05:32:02 ET has someone experience or seen a leaves being blotted with white spot, I turned it over to see whats up , and I didnt see anything , but when I use my mini microscope, then I see this lots of greenish ball (seems like eggs)and then I see this bug (whatever that is)its clear in color with a big black dot on top, again this is looking throught those mini microscope. can someone pls help me to get rid of those pest... \ôô/

Re: blotted leaves

wingwang Registered on May-28-2006 More User Info Message #17346 posted by wingwang (Info) January 03, 2007 21:28:09 ET In Reply to: blotted leaves posted by wingwang (Info) January 03, 2007 05:32:02 ET when I first noticed this I used this pesticidal soap, then all the flowers went brown (seems dead) it took about four days b4 they recover and replaced all the dead flowers, but still showing some blotted leaves, u guys think I should use just soap ? or that neem oil or maybe just leave it alone, any suggestion will be highly appreciated. \ôô/

bugs in the room in different life stages

sanclem Premier Member Registered on Nov-16-2000 More User Info Message #17347 posted by sanclem (Info) January 04, 2007 23:16:44 ET In Reply to: Re: blotted leaves posted by wingwang (Info) January 03, 2007 21:28:09 ET Use Raid bug bombs its pryenthin (sp) , its photo reactive. Now what you need to do is do it every 5-6 days for 3 weeks to break the life cycle of the bugs. Note you always need good air flow in the grow space. Air movement will prevent mold. YOU will also need to filter the incoming air and prevent bugs from flying in the exust. Note used Raid for a few decades so I think it works. Stop atleast 3 weeks before harvest, as it takes about a week for the photo reactive thing to perge out of the leaves

Re: bugs in the room in different life stages

wingwang Registered on May-28-2006 More User Info Message #17348 posted by wingwang (Info) January 09, 2007 03:12:04 ET In Reply to: bugs in the room in different life stages posted by sanclem (Info) January 04, 2007 23:16:44 ET Sanclem, thanks for the reply,. when u said good air flow, what do u think is the best time interval for the intake and outtake, right now its set up for 15 min out overlap with 15 min in, and this will cycle every four hours.. your reply is highly appreciated. \ôô/

going with the flow

sanclem Premier Member Registered on Nov-16-2000 More User Info Message #17349 posted by sanclem (Info) January 10, 2007 20:54:52 ET In Reply to: Re: bugs in the room in different life stages posted by wingwang (Info) January 09, 2007 03:12:04 ET When your not using co2 injection I like to keep the air flowing all the time. The only exception is 12 pm to 7 am as the outside air is below 65d.f. that usualy is in the winter. The normal co2 levels are about 300 ppm and its free. If you can make the intake in the house there higher levels there. Also you must use caution with the damn noise, and intake. I use a intake filter with a pantyhose over the first intake then a hepa filter, damn bugs gota be real small to fit in to a hepa filter.

Re: going with the flow

wingwang Registered on May-28-2006 More User Info Message #17350 posted by wingwang (Info) January 14, 2007 03:44:20 ET In Reply to: going with the flow posted by sanclem (Info) January 10, 2007 20:54:52 ET Sanclem, Ur my Guru, Thanks for all the info. I finally found what those bugs is, its white flies babies, I also think I got rid of them by using a dish soap, while im spraying them thoroughly I decided to cut all the fan leaves (is that a good idea?)now the bottom flowers can get a good light. One bubbler and one soil is now in yellowing mode, I started flushing them last night with plain water, the bubbler is showing a fast yellowing on their leaves( I might harvest this if this continues on) I would love to hear and learn from your many years of grow experience. thanks in advance, \ôô/

removing fan leaves NO

sanclem Premier Member Registered on Nov-16-2000 More User Info Message #17351 posted by sanclem (Info) January 14, 2007 20:38:21 ET In Reply to: Re: going with the flow posted by wingwang (Info) January 14, 2007 03:44:20 ET 1 fan leaves move no air 2 fan sun leaves do provide a service to the plant by converting the uptake of ferts and converting it with light to make the plant make buds. 3 If you put bricks in your gas tank it will take less to fill it. Its just like small cars, great millege, but will kill you in a accident. Did you save money , short term yes, after hospital cost no. The insurance company will prove it you. I think the object of growing is buds, not sticks.

Re: removing fan leaves NO/oooopppss

wingwang Registered on May-28-2006 More User Info Message #17352 posted by wingwang (Info) January 16, 2007 02:37:52 ET In Reply to: removing fan leaves NO posted by sanclem (Info) January 14, 2007 20:38:21 ET Sanclem, I guess oooopppsss, I wont be doing that again,LOL dont laught , I'll post a b4 and after. \ôô/ ps. hey give me a break its my second grow (will that pass as an excuse, LOL) but I know one thing, it look much much better than my first grow.

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Re: removing fan leaves NO/oooopppss

wingwang Registered on May-28-2006 More User Info Message #17353 posted by wingwang (Info) January 16, 2007 02:40:18 ET In Reply to: Re: removing fan leaves NO/oooopppss posted by wingwang (Info) January 16, 2007 02:37:52 ET this is how it looks after cutting the fan leaves.

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How sticks should look

sanclem Premier Member Registered on Nov-16-2000 More User Info Message #17354 posted by sanclem (Info) January 17, 2007 18:49:42 ET In Reply to: Re: removing fan leaves NO/oooopppss posted by wingwang (Info) January 16, 2007 02:40:18 ET this is how sticks should look, I was wondering where, will you plants get the conversion of ferts to buds. Yes they will bud, but the bottom line is the max. output for the lights. Back to the old grams / watts /month I hope you have tried both ways and come up with some g/w/m. I hope your way works after a few decades of growing, I'll keep my fan leaves, to make power to the plant.

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Re: How sticks should look

wingwang Registered on May-28-2006 More User Info Message #17370 posted by wingwang (Info) February 06, 2007 02:01:40 ET In Reply to: How sticks should look posted by sanclem (Info) January 17, 2007 18:49:42 ET Sanclem, I notice that some people are using the multiplication/division deal in there grow room ( grams / watts /month ) would u be so kind to teach me of how this thing work. ur reply is highly appreciated. \ôô/®

Pot MATH = WHERE IT'S AT NO BULL

sanclem Premier Member Registered on Nov-16-2000 More User Info Message #17402 posted by sanclem (Info) March 17, 2007 16:50:40 ET In Reply to: Re: How sticks should look posted by wingwang (Info) February 06, 2007 02:01:40 ET Total output 500 grams 1000 watt bulb, # of months Lets say you got 500 grams from a 1000 watt bulb in 2 months That's 0.5 grams or g/w/m In a plunk them down system White Widow 63 days bloom time I get .468 g/w/m avg. The best I have seen was .6 g/w/m by Tic on over grow With a SCROG system , and I was ?? in soil and hps Note its the net/net/net trimmed, dried, cured Note its just the facts and only the facts. Note I use automation and it run remotly Relay runner with a 74 printer port relay card relayrunner is the program , which runs 8 relays with 5 on/off cycle a day. Look for it, its easy

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