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need advice on hydro system
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Message #17401 posted by drummerboy (Info) March 13, 2007 17:12:59 ET

i am thinking about buying bloom box from bc northern lights. have researched the unit and it seems ideal for me i am only growing for personal use and am not good at diy so i dont mind paying more for box than cost to build my own. i would like to know if anyone has experience using this system.if so does it work as well as the company says it does and is it safe to use in usa because it doesnt create much heat, has alot of vent fans doesnt draw much power to run and no smell so please get back to me thank you



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Message #17403 posted by george j warner (Info) April 06, 2007 11:39:30 ET
In Reply to: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) March 13, 2007 17:12:59 ET

can i just say ..the only reason you havent got any replies is because we build
our own systems and grow rooms ...sorry mate : ( ,, just build one you silly billy
: )




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Message #17404 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 06, 2007 16:42:30 ET
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thankyou for responding have tried in the past to build my own but could never get all the bugs worked out and had trouble wiring the lights could you give me instructions on best way to build my own hydro unit with veg and flower room. thank you



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Message #17405 posted by del... (Info) April 06, 2007 18:42:03 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 06, 2007 16:42:30 ET

you are breaking the 1st rule of growers...K.I.S.S.!

Keep It Simple, Stoner!

why are you jumping into something you know nothing about? why not instead go with a method you're at least somewhat familiar with and give yourself a chance at bringing in something worthy of your efforts?





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Message #17406 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 06, 2007 23:22:09 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by del... (Info) April 06, 2007 18:42:03 ET

KISS i like that i have alot of books and one grow video and will begrowing indoors and hydro is less for giving than soil but if i check plants and ph level along with room temp and humidity level every day i should be ok but would like to know a little more about ferts and nuets what is best nuets for seedling,veg, and flowering also clones thanks alot take care



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Message #17407 posted by george j warner (Info) April 07, 2007 20:13:22 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 06, 2007 23:22:09 ET

rofl ..like it del . but building your own grow room isnt hard think of it like a
big spacey greenhouse

1)firstly you have to tell me what are the dimensions of the space you want to
use .

2)then what wattage light you want to use !

3) how many plants you want to grow and mums ,clones,vegging etc

4)how much cash you got to spend

5)you got any grow equipment now?

6) what strain you want to grow?

7)where the space is ...ie is it next to a window? in loft? basement?

8)where the space is ,is there access to a vent to get fresh air?

answer thease qs and i'll tell you the best way forwards ... i have designed
growrooms for other people before its not hard ...

http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thd11x17195.shtml

http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/msg11x17236.shtml

laterz




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Message #17408 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 09, 2007 00:31:20 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by george j warner (Info) April 07, 2007 20:13:22 ET

i dont have basement or atic i live in apartment but closet is to small thats why im intrested in the bloombox because it just looks like a piece of furniture in a room very stealth looking i dont really have anywhere to vent out hot air ie chimey or attic so i will use house ac unit to keep cold air flowing into grow box but cant vent hot air anywhere except back into bedroom after its gone through carcoal filter but i dont think that will be a problem because with that box it constantly blows cold air over lights so air never has chance to get hot i wish i had chimney or way to vent hot air to outside i dont have any equipment yet i want to use a 4 or 600 watt bulb and florecents for seedling veg and mother plant first i will try to grow with local seeds as a practice run so any mistakes wont kill a good strain would like to then get pure indica strain would like to try an grow love potion #1 i really enjoy body highs from really good indica and indica plants are short and fat good for indoors and tight spaces so that helps if i build a room i want to split room in half for veg and flower room but cant give u exact size for grow space sorry if you can recomend a sleath safe set up for apartment with what size you recomend dont want to grow alot of plants so dont need anything to big my dream and goal is to grow one crop get one strong female flower and harvest buds to keep my personal supply of smoke constant and every time it gets low take some clones from mom veg them for 2 weeks and stick them in flowering room i also think as im tring to earn my green thumb it will be very therapuidic my dad grew pot all through the 70s in the backyard so its in my blood would love to give him big fat cola one day of some premo smoke that i grew i wil have in a few weeks or so about a 1000 dollars to spend on equipment thanks again take care



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Message #17409 posted by george j warner (Info) April 09, 2007 20:10:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 09, 2007 00:31:20 ET

hmmm thats a tricky one , you know after all that maybe a bloombox would be
better ... the only other thing i can think of is go and buy a wardrobe from a
furniture shop and build it inside it ...ive done that before and it works fine
obviously bigger the better ... can i just ask do you own the apartment? or are
you renting it ? coz if you own it just put a fake wall up somewhere for a space
with the door out the back of a wardrobe or something .. its not hard and yer i
no your cant do diy very well. but its not hard . just make a frame of wood screw
it to the floor walls and celling with 3/4 vertical struts inbetween ,then a couple
sheets of MDF on the room side vents by the floor ...bit of filler .decoraters cauk
, white paint (cant see dents) then you got a space that everyone doesnt see ....
happy happy happy




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Message #17410 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 09, 2007 20:27:32 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by george j warner (Info) April 09, 2007 20:10:51 ET

no i dont own the apartment so i need to hide box very well bu t i smoke alot and cost way to much on black market so i need to figure out some way to make it happen i dont want to quit smoking because of cost and my wife says i am grumpy when i dont smoke so i need to grow somehow but have to be extra safe cant smoke in jail just want to grow my own pay my taxes and not be bothered with will not ever sell any of my crop or tell anyone i am growing so hopefully soon i can build or buy a setup and start growing go to BC NORTHERN LIGHTS .COM PLEASE AND READ ABOUT BLOOMBOX HORTICULTURE PACK AND FERTS AND NUET PACKAGE THEY SELL AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK I REALLY WOULD APPRECATE IT THANKS AGAIN TAKE CARE



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Message #17411 posted by george j warner (Info) April 10, 2007 08:43:45 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 09, 2007 20:27:32 ET

they look ok : ) ,
.depends how much you wanna grow/smoke ...

QUESTION: on average how much do you smoke a month? in grams/0z's
QUESTION: and how easily can you get seeds ? it might be cheaper you
getting to bloom box
QUESTION: have you ever grown any kind of plant before ????

http://www.bcnorthernlights.com/bloombox.html

i would get the bloombox but "without co2" and "with hydroponics"

yer had another look get the BLOOMBOX without CO2.
after they tell you what you get with it look down this list to the things you
dont have :

EQUIPMENT NEEDED:

1)ph and ppm meter
2)ferts/nutes and additives
3)digital thermometer (flowering chamber only)
4)ph up and liquid silicone/oxy plus(ph down)
5)pruning scissors
6)razor blades
7)clonex
8)a propagator
9) grow medium(clay balls ,rockwool)
10)tank heater
11)nitrozyme
think thats it .....
for all your hydroponics supplies go to :
https://www.discount-hydro.com

something they will definately NOT provide you with is SEEDS : )
for your seeds go to :
https://www.seedboutique.com

hope this helps, if you dont understand anything just ask : )

peace












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Message #17412 posted by george j warner (Info) April 10, 2007 08:48:58 ET
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ok the discount hydro link isnt working ..might just be my computer but write in
www.discount-dydro.com






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Message #17413 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 10, 2007 13:36:42 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by george j warner (Info) April 10, 2007 08:43:45 ET

i have no problem getting seeds but its from low grade smoke can buy good hydro where i live but cant get good seeds so will order good seeds after first crop i have grown outdoors before but its been about 10 years ago and never could get a real good crop and the grow season is so long outdoors why do you recomend not using co2 and not hydro from what i have read hydro is alot cleaner growing medium and with soil alot more problems with bugs i smoke 4 to 5 oz a month try to always buy best in town but i have to smoke alot to get high went to europe once and even had to smoke alot and i sampled like 10 different strains im not braging i wish i only needed one toke to get stoned people say quit for awhile then start back and will get higher but didnt work and i dont want to quit smoking 4 oz a month might be alot but i feel so good with buds and so bad without only thing that pisses me off is the price for good buds i my sound like a loser but all i care about is pot and my family dont want all the finer things in life just want to grow my own and stop paying so much from dealers



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Message #17414 posted by george j warner (Info) April 11, 2007 11:15:33 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 10, 2007 13:36:42 ET

i sed without co2 but WITH hydroponics :quote


i would get the bloombox but "without co2" and "with hydroponics"

co2 for beginers is a bad idea as if it goes wrong because for in a confined
space ...you and your wife might die ...as it is poisonous!!!!

that why i dont like it ! if you grow in a barn its ok or underground !
but if you sleep and couple of doors away ..no thnx 8 ( !

and that paragragh doesnt make you sound like a loser : ) , if you care about
ur family and growingyour own then thats sounds admirable ...if your primary
concern was just weed and fuck everyone else i wouldnt help you : )

peace and the bloom box should dish out 4/5 ozz month i'll show you how
to make homemade hash to that will fuck you up ... my friends concider
themselves as conicers well they loaded up there spliff and 1/2 tokes later
was as stoned as they were when they started it lmao. : ) in fact theres a
thread somewher on here where i told someone how to make it ....i'll try and
find it





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Message #17415 posted by george j warner (Info) April 11, 2007 11:18:04 ET
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http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thd13x8366.shtml

enjoy : )




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Message #17416 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 14:03:40 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by george j warner (Info) April 11, 2007 11:18:04 ET

i have a grow video that shows you how to make hash with 5 gallon buckets ice and water 5 work bags and electric mixer thank you for the advise about co2 and sorry i thought you said no hydro i was only intrested in co2 because machine is setup for it and have read it increases yields by 25% but not worth dying for any amount of increased yield i am concerned with shipping if i buy bloombox because you have to give name and social number because it is shipped from another country the company says they ship to usa all the time with no problem and if i use a friend have it shipped to his address then he will know whats going on dont want that.but since i dont have anywhere to hide a grow room the bloombox seems like only option i have. the wardrobe is good idea saw one in high times someone built but can i make 2 rooms inside wardrobe for veg and flower and will it be big enough thank you for all your help i am greatful take care



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Message #17418 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 16:43:37 ET
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george i checked out the posting above mine the supercloset can sit in my room unoticed please check it out and tell me what you think please and i went to supercloset.com to veiw more pics but no pics of back of cabnet i think the charcoal filter is mounted on back of cabnet so dont no about that since filter is exsposed if thats the case maybe i can put in corner of my room to help hide it please get back to me when you can thank you very much take care



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Message #17419 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 17:37:29 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 16:43:37 ET

which model you looking at ...there not as good as bloom boxes !

ok models:

"DELUXE" :

this is not best suited for weed growth , the vegs cloning area is too small and where you meant to grow the mums if your flowering above??? bit stupid really !

they clame it will grow 24 plants up to 3ft tall ...hahaha my arse it will and they clame it produces 50% more than "people ho have copyed there design" this is because they have put a 600watt in the space of a 250 !

"BACK2BACK"

this would be fine for flowering but at a high cost of having NO VEG SPACE!

"SIDE2SIDE"

THIS IS ULTIMATELY STUPID!
they have got 3 rooms ...1 is the left ,1 is the right , and 1 for cloning under the left .

the cloning area is fine no problems , the 2 main rooms are grown off 1 light which is on a lightmover .... sSO WHERE THE HELL IS THE VEG ROOM IF THE LIGHT IS OVER BOTH AND THEREFORE THE SAME LIGHT HOURS??? lmao

oh and its a dual spectrum light ...wow ,not . it veg all or flower all ..you got NO control!

"SUPERFLOWER"

this is more like a bc bloom box and ok all round except for the BLACK! who ever painted the inside black should be fired !

"SUPERCUBE"

well at 2 foot growing space you are gona get some problems trust me on that one ! ..they should have called this one "the black box" lol


..........................................................
i got an idea . why dont you go get a cheap wardrobe from a furniture store . and modify it to your own design .. then save your self money


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Message #17420 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 17:55:40 ET
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thank you for your advice i just saw the posting and thought it mite work plus alot cheaper than bloombox would like to build my own with wardrob not sure of best way to do that and i dont have to many tools except some hand tools the biggest problem i have with bloombox is the price will take me awhile to save up the cash thank you again and what do you think about having bloombox shipped not to sure about that take care



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Message #17421 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 18:06:07 ET
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flowering..

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Message #17422 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 18:28:09 ET
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veg

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Message #17423 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 18:31:47 ET
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thanks for picture can i use other side for veg and how many fans should i have installed in the back of wardrobe i need step by step instructions for everything for start to end of build because not good at diy i musical talent but not mechanical skills so if you could help great if not i understand sorry if i am asking for so much info thanks again take care



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Message #17424 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 18:42:15 ET
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no its cool.
i'll explain it .. you only need one fan conected to a carbon filter sucking air out ! you have to vents 1 inside half way up the mother plant that goes to the flowering chamber and one on the right side of veg chamber at the pot hight where theres less light !

the fan will create a vacume and suck air through both vents ...trust me on this they are powerful!


thats air flow sorted but start at the beginning first get your wardrobe an then email me and i'll show you what to do ... try to get a 3 secetion 1 like in the picture (3 doors...2 parts) a double area and a single

email me when you have sorted it out .

timnashly@hotmail.co.uk

: )




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Message #17425 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 18:44:33 ET
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ps what country you in? uk or usa



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Message #17426 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 19:30:35 ET
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i am from usa where can i buy the wardrobe that is in the photo never seen one with 3 doors on front in that formation thanks take care



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Message #17427 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 20:07:39 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 19:30:35 ET

yer that pic is from a uk shop but it is just a shop that has a massive cataloge instead of a massive shop...

is there any shops like K mart that do cheap furniture? (k mart is the only one i know ) ps im from uk

the hydroponic shop you order from is
www.discount-hydro.com




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Message #17428 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 20:14:47 ET
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hahaha ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Sauder-Wardrobe-Storage-Cabinet_W0QQitemZ320102841055QQihZ011QQcategoryZ20487QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

arrrrr you got IKEA too ? : ) that the place




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Message #17429 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 20:16:57 ET
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there you go something perfect and cheap that doesnt look shite : )

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?topcategoryId=15597&catalogId=10103&storeId=12&productId=56802&langId=-1&categoryId=15856&chosenPartNumber=20093060

get this : )




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Message #17430 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 20:32:43 ET
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thank you that cabnet is perfct the state i live in doesnt have a store but state right above me does so i will call tommorrow to find out how much shipping is if i dont post for a few weeks its because it might take awhile for shipping thank you



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Message #17431 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 20:37:42 ET
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hey about that hydro website its safe to order online because order can be traced back to perchaser right please let me know thank you take care



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Message #17432 posted by george j warner (Info) April 13, 2007 21:38:01 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 20:32:43 ET

thats ok .

im just looking up for some places for your hydro stuff

this is for your flowering LIGHT

http://www.4hydroponics.com/lighting/sunspot6.asp

the :400watt hps light
(HPS) HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM PACKAGE:
Sunspot 6 Reflector - 400 watt HPS Ballast
FREE SHIPPING

VEGGING LIGHT (mum)
http://www.discount-hydro.com/GardenLightFluor.asp

CLONE LIGHT get 4 pack
http://www.lightbulbsdirect.com/page/001/PROD/MiniSpiral/2891351K


this is for your FAN :

http://www.4hydroponics.com/grow_room/vortexfan.asp

Vortex PowerFan - 6 inch:

fan SPEED CONTROLLER:
http://www.4hydroponics.com/grow_room/fanSpeed.asp

CARBON FILTER:
http://www.discount-hydro.com/odorcontrol.asp

at the bottom "Carbonaire Charcoal Filters"

the 6" without fan

DUCTING:bottom

6" http://www.discount-hydro.com/ventilation.asp

get some duct tape from anywhere!diy store, etc

SYSTEMS:

MUM:
get a black 3.5 gallon bucket and a lid with net pot underneath (6")

http://www.discount-hydro.com/growmediums.asp

and get a air pump:
http://www.discount-hydro.com/airpumps.asp
the cheapest top pump and 10' of air line at bottom

and an air stone :
http://www.amazon.com/Top-Fin-Round-Airstones/dp/B000BHHDPW/ref=sr_1_3/103-3269497-8061425?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1176513315&sr=1-3

that the mums system i'll show you how to put it together later...

the flowering system i cant tell you what to get until you get the wardrobe coz i need the internal measurements !

this is other stuff you need :

MYLAR:
$ 29.95 - 25' Roll Mylar 2 mil AND 20' of black and white poly .

http://www.discount-hydro.com/mylar.asp

CLONING:you dont need everything yet but heres what you do need

http://www.amazon.com/Windowbox-com-The-Propagator/dp/B0009IR47U/ref=sr_1_1/103-3269497-8061425?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1176513754&sr=1-1

and some Jiffy-7 Peat Plugs
http://www.discount-hydro.com/cloning.asp
25 is loads for now

MEDIUM :(what compound you grow in !)
50 litres of grow rocks

http://www.discount-hydro.com/growmediums.asp

THATS IT FOR NOW, UNTIL YOU GET ON TOP OF YOUR BUILD then theres a few more things to get like flowering system ,ph meter ,tds meter, ferts, additives ..and then finally seeds : )

theres a lot here but you'll save lots lol .
peace








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Message #17433 posted by drummerboy (Info) April 13, 2007 22:54:22 ET
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thank you for all the links to buy equipment i will start purchasing these items in next few weeks and its safe to order you say thats good i will get back to you as soon as i can thanks take care



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Message #17434 posted by george j warner (Info) April 14, 2007 17:22:13 ET
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everything is legal ... and because you are purchasing things from everywhere it doesnt look suss.

the only thing thats illegal is seeds but you have https://www.seedboutique.com for that : )... the best seed company in the world ! safe ordering to the usa : )




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Message #17442 posted by drummerboy (Info) May 27, 2007 14:42:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by george j warner (Info) April 14, 2007 17:22:13 ET

hello george how are you . i am going to start buying the gear i need to build wardrobe know. but the link you gave me for mum light you didnt specify which model to buy so if you could please let me know thank you very much and can you give me some links where to buy flower system ph meter tds meter ferts and additives thank you so much i am going to start buying an item a week so in next 2 or 3 months will have everything i need take care for now hope to hear from you soon



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Message #17443 posted by george j warner (Info) May 28, 2007 10:20:33 ET
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i didnt say which one because i need the inside measurements of the wardrobe ... so i know it will fit !

same with the system !




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Message #17444 posted by drummerboy (Info) May 28, 2007 11:17:59 ET
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ok thank you for responding i will give you measurements as soon as i can take care for now.



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Message #17445 posted by drummerboy (Info) May 29, 2007 18:30:46 ET
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hello george how are you. can you tell me if i order charcoal filter but dont use it for 6 months will it still be good in 6 months. thank you take care for now.



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Message #17446 posted by george j warner (Info) June 01, 2007 15:21:42 ET
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wow thats a crap carbon filter lol they noramll last 9-18 months lol in 6 month it will still work but not as well as it did when you started off ... or when you WILL buy it

for the ammount of weed your gona get it doesnt really matter ...think of it like this the first harvest will cover the set up expences

laterz




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Message #17447 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 01, 2007 18:37:40 ET
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thanks for responding i will make the carbon filter the last item i buy i will be buying wardrobe in next couple of weeks and will give you measurements of inside thanks again take care ps would you prefer i email you with questions or post on this site.



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Message #17448 posted by george j warner (Info) June 02, 2007 08:04:06 ET
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post or email... i dont mind , post is easier coz i check this site for questions everyday, but i dont check my email everyday .

laterz




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Message #17449 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 02, 2007 16:23:10 ET
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thanks again george i will keep posting here take care



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Message #17450 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 12, 2007 14:17:36 ET
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hi george i clicked on the link you gave me for ikea to buy the wardrobe and it says it cant be displayed so i went to ikeas web site and looked at there products and cant find the model you gave me to buy i want to buy the wardrobe this friday so iif you could find it for me or send me a link to another site for a wardrobe you think i should buy thank you take care for now



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Message #17451 posted by george j warner (Info) June 12, 2007 17:29:14 ET
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they havent got the model anymore your gona have to pick another one ! you were too late lol ...http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/categories/rooms/bedroom/10449/

laterz




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Message #17452 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 12, 2007 19:09:48 ET
In Reply to: Re: need advice on hydro system posted by george j warner (Info) June 12, 2007 17:29:14 ET

thanks again george i looked at remberg model it is the closest to the other wardrobe tell me what you think please yea that sucks they dont have wardrobe but my wife isnt working right now so its taking me longer to save some money wish i could have already bought other model but atleast i am able now to start buying the gear thanks again take care ps if you know another site to buy wardrobe that would be cool because not to many choices at ikea and the wardrobe im looking at now on ikea is 100 bucks more than the original one you told me to get thank you.



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Message #17453 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 13, 2007 14:50:50 ET
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hi geooge how r u . i found a warbrode at lowes .com its a home improvment store the warbrode is 20 inches deep from front to back is that deep enough i am going to lowes today to look at in person and will buy on friday so please let me know if it is a good size i think it is 70 inches high 48 inches wide and 20 inches deep i can get exact measurements at the storetake care for now



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Message #17454 posted by george j warner (Info) June 14, 2007 19:15:05 ET
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give me the link...



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Message #17455 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 16, 2007 15:09:30 ET
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not sure how to give you the link go to www.lowes.com and you have to search threw there products but not to many to search threw i got the inside measurements for each side flower and veg each side is same it is 20 inches deep 22 3/4 wide and 64 1/2 inches high and inter changeable shelves for each side i havent bought it yet want to get your advice first so hopefully you can find it at www.lowes.com thanks take care for now



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Message #17456 posted by george j warner (Info) June 17, 2007 14:19:42 ET
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find the page where the wardrobe is on the site ...then...in the browser where
you write www. etc draw the mouse over it holding left mouse button so it
highlights it then press ctrl + c to copy then paste it (ctrl + v) where you write
your reply ...and copy the entire link ...including the "https://"

if you got an apple you have to press " apple + c "and " apple + v "

laterz




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Message #17457 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 18, 2007 16:49:17 ET
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Here is a link, let me know what you think!
Thanks for all of your help!

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=83870-444-WS48MP&lpage=none




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Message #17458 posted by george j warner (Info) June 18, 2007 21:42:06 ET
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yer look ok ... you will have to move the center seperater to the left abit to make the right side bigger (flowering chamber) and remove 1 shelf see pic :

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Message #17459 posted by george j warner (Info) June 18, 2007 21:43:03 ET
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then the set up will be roughly like this:



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Message #17460 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 18, 2007 21:55:07 ET
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hi george so i should buy then? and how far over should i move the center divider for flower side.i have looked on ebay and alot of furniture stores where i live and cant find anything except this unit they had some on ebay but cost so much for shipping so hopefully this will work thanks take care for now



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Message #17461 posted by george j warner (Info) June 18, 2007 22:07:14 ET
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did you buy any hydro stuff coz the florecent light will not fit ! you will have to get a enviro light :

http://discount-hydro.com/cloning.asp

(bottom light 105watt) bulb and fitting !

when you get the wardrobe ..your gona have to make some changes to it like light proofing the door ... ducttape and mylar/blackout..

the center seperater will have to be screwed in leaving the LEFT space with 35cm (14 inches) this is big enough for the mum and pot (DWC) the flowering space will have to be measured exsactly and i need the measurements in "cm" not inches (uk lol)
then you got to go shopping for a plastic storage box to fit the space .. you might have to get 2 ... try to have the height of it about 30cm (12")....this will be turned into a DWC system for flowering .... all i can say for sure iss the air pump:

http://discount-hydro.com/airpumps.asp (the dual diaphram)

you might aswell wait before you get the hydro stuff untill you get the wardrobe just incase it doesnt fit ...

I NEED THE INTERNAL MEASUREMENTS!

laterz




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Message #17462 posted by george j warner (Info) June 18, 2007 22:08:34 ET
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i gotta go to bed lol its 3am : ( night



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Message #17463 posted by george j warner (Info) June 19, 2007 12:09:54 ET
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actually this is a better design

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Message #17464 posted by drummerboy (Info) June 22, 2007 14:26:13 ET
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hi george i have not bought any hydro equipment yet. since i have to make alot of changes to cabnet maybe i should keep looking for something like you first picked out for me at ikea.com that would work better and has more room just a thought. im considering building one out of plywood at this point would be alot cheaper just cant hide as well as wardrobe so i still need wardrobe to conceal it thanks take care for now.



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Message #17465 posted by george j warner (Info) June 22, 2007 18:46:06 ET
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ok , try MDF ITS EASIER TO MOLD LOL

if you got enough DIY skills to build ya own just get the wardrobe above and change it coz it will save you money on materials...




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Message #17468 posted by drummerboy (Info) August 19, 2007 19:05:42 ET
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hi george sorry i have not posted for awhile my computer has a virus but anyway i might be moving to nevada to get my medical mj license i am in the process of finding out evrything i can about the laws there. from what i have been reading you can only have 3 flowering and 4 non flowering plants. so i guess 1 mum 3 clones and 3 blooming. so i was wanting to know if i should use DWC for mum and DWC for flowering plants i have read a few articles about DWC but dont know to much about it other than it gives your roots so much room to grow. not sure if flowering time is longer for more roots to develop or can you flower for 8 to 10 weeks and then harvest . also with DWC will plants grow twice as much in 8 to 10 weeks of flowering because of more roots or will they be same size as non DWC plants . if you could give me some links to DWC INFORMATION for me to read and answer any of my questions that would be great thanks for your help. ps if i can only flower 3 plants at a time will i be able to harvest enough buds every 2 months to keep constant supply of smoke for myself. take care talk to you soon



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Message #17469 posted by george j warner (Info) August 20, 2007 16:26:16 ET
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if you have 7 dwc buckets :

1 mum
3 in veg
3 in flowering

when the flowering ones finish chop them and move the new 3 veg ones in ,then cut 3 clones off your mum and root then veg in the old 3 flowering buckets ...etc, that means when you flower every time they will be 3-4ft : ),then you can still abuse the system legally : )

you'll get a harvest of 3 x 4 footers every 8 weeks : )and if you chose a large yeilding strain like big bud or wonder woman you'll get 5-8 oz per plant !





DWC is very simple and very effective , 4 main things make up a system

bucket/container
air pump
air stone/air line
net pot and grow medium

if you get a cheaper air pump and stone it will make the difference between a fast plant and a shite plant lol

dont get a pump smaller than 150Lt/Air/hour per bucket .... and a 300Ltr pump uses 5 watts of power so lots of pumps arnt expensive to run .THE AIR PUMP HAS TO BE ON 24/7 ... ALL THE TIME or the roots will rot!

if you have a 8 week strain ,it will still flower in 8weeks its just because the infusion of air speeds up the plant flowering process ... so the result is it just flowers more (bigger yeild) .......

Mums also grow very well in DWC because like in flowering the growing in veg speed up, so creating new sprouts that turn into your clones are quicker producing ..and recovering after they are lopped off .

and the more roots thing just means you get more yeild too (in the end)

fertalizer is the same as any hydro system, a few things are needed:

abviously the DWC systems lol (no system timers needed)
the ferts..veg and flowering and superbloom (your choice)
superthrive (build roots fast)
clonex(rooting hormone gel)e center medium)
grow medium (sometimes comes with system)
rockwool blocks (for rooting clones and seeds and using as the center medium)
ph down (to lower the ph level in the system)
ph up (you can guess) .... not really needed
and you ph and ec meters

you want some info or DWC get a grow book lol

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Closet-Cultivator-Ed-Rosenthal/dp/0932551211/ref=pd_bowtega_1/202-1941223-8138202?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187641362&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Marijuana-Horticulture-outdoor-Medical-Growers/dp/187882323X/ref=pd_sim_b_5/202-1941223-8138202?ie=UTF8&qid=1187641362&sr=1-1

these will help you more than anyone on this site 8 )

thats the best info i can give ... get a grow book lol, i did and it changed my life! more knowledge and understanding of your favourite subject .

laterz




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Message #17470 posted by george j warner (Info) August 20, 2007 16:33:34 ET
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one more thing someone on her before asked about system so i photoshoped some up DWC is in there .. explains a bit if you got no idea lol

http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thd16x40465.shtml




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Message #17471 posted by drummerboy (Info) August 21, 2007 20:47:02 ET
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hi george i have indoor mj horticulture bible,5 easy gardens mj indoors, and ultimate grow dvd by jorge cervantes. mj growers insiders guide by mel franks. growing mj hydroponically by hans. mj botany by robert connell clarke. and the big book of buds by ed rosenthal but none of these books talk about DWC so thank very much for your help and advice take care for now



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