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do i have enough space to yeild pounds?
time2grow

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Message #17513 posted by time2grow (Info) November 30, 2007 17:52:13 ET

I have a closet in my room thats 5ft wide by about 3 ft deep and like 8 ft tall. can i create a grow room that grows big plants to yield pounds from the room size ? also its a closet with a single door to it, at the top of the ceiling is a attic, which is not opened but closed by a removable board. is an attic a good place to vent the smell into? im planning on growing from soil...and the strain i have is granddaddy purple x skunk . ps. George i would glady appreciate u designing a grow setup for me. THANKS!!!



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george j warner

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Message #17514 posted by george j warner (Info) November 30, 2007 19:03:51 ET
In Reply to: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by time2grow (Info) November 30, 2007 17:52:13 ET

if you want to yeild pounds go with a more yeilding strain like wonder woman or rocklock but yer you can yeild pounds and pounds lol

if you want yeild instead of soil go hydro like a cheap dwc system or drip in rockwool that space is the same as the design i just did for someone just use the same design lol




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Message #17515 posted by time2grow (Info) November 30, 2007 19:08:38 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by george j warner (Info) November 30, 2007 19:03:51 ET

ok is wonder woman or rocklock avaiable from seetboutique.com? cuz thats where i have to buy them from cuz im in usa. and i saw a design u did for a dwc system, how much space do i need between plants to grow them big? and what do u suggest how many plants i should grow in that space at once? and i didnt know that a dwc system or drip will grow my plants bigger then soil but i guess it does since u said it right? thanks



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Message #17516 posted by george j warner (Info) December 01, 2007 10:51:03 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by time2grow (Info) November 30, 2007 19:08:38 ET

i dont mind growing in soil but the pot size it takes to grow a plant big is stupid and the soil over time loses the goodness like nitrates so from good earth to crap dirt in 6 months : ( , soils ok if you want to grow small

how big are we talking here? you going to use the full height possible? coz as a plant gets huge it gets very wide and the chance of multiples reduces.

if you got 8 ft think about the space as:
1.5/2ft soil / system
3ft/3.5 plants max
1 ft below light
1 ft light
1ft above light (can be for main outake fan & filter)

more than 3ft/3.5foot plants cause problems

if you corden off 3ft x3ft for the grow space it will give you room enough to get in and out ..

seedboutique has always been one of my faves but recently their stock has been a bit crap .. they havent got alot of the stuff they used to ,, im guessing your gona get feminized seeds? as there wont be much room to fuck it up lol.

heres one from sb for your concideration

https://www.seedboutique.com/store/product_info.php?currency=USD&manufacturers_id=77&products_id=1009
ive grown to types from green house and you get 100% germination : ) ,,rocklock and wonder woman are no longer on seedboutique : (




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Message #17517 posted by time2grow (Info) December 01, 2007 17:34:20 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by george j warner (Info) December 01, 2007 10:51:03 ET

thanks a lot George. i really do appreciate it, ur helping me piece this last part together so i can get started.****ACTUALLY MEASUREMENTS I JUST MEASURED IS 5ft 7inch wide, 2ft 2inch deep, 8ft 6inch height.****** i heard u can use cfl and to make it an easy question, can i use cfl to grow maximum plant quantity? and how much plants is perfect for that size to grow big and so i can harvest good? and should i use cfl first til flowering or can i use them the whole time? just if i get a lot of them? im putting up mylar today on all the walls to make it reflective. thanks! also im going to make the dws system. im alittle confused on the net part...is it just a regular net? that i connect to the hole in the lid of the bucket? and does it start in soil and then i just let it grow threw the soil down past the net into the bubbling wateR? THANKS GEORGE!!!



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Message #17518 posted by time2grow (Info) December 02, 2007 03:06:09 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by time2grow (Info) December 01, 2007 17:34:20 ET

oh hey george also seedboutique is out of strawberry haze, and the regular
white widow, so they have nothing in stock right now from green house can u
give me another choice u recommend please?? also my email is
kushoholic@hotmail.com can u please email me there if not here is fine, but
email is a bit more private. thanks george.




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george j warner

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Message #17519 posted by george j warner (Info) December 02, 2007 18:45:24 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by time2grow (Info) December 02, 2007 03:06:09 ET

right i'll email you about the seeds but ,the other questions on here so if people know better ways your'll fine out ...

firstly cfls :
yes you can use them but not in flowering you need nto get yourself a HID (high intensity discharge) like a HPS or MH for flowering
cfls are ok if you grow small ammount of weed but i dont like them i only would ever use one for cloning (in blue spectrum...white light)
you need a proper light if you going to flower for yeild and to do dwc system justis. a dwc system grows the plant faster but without a good light it will be crap.

the dwc system net pot isnt a real net its a plastic pot with holes in like a net see link bellow the growing medium (not soil) sits in it then the roots grow through and sit/hang in the fizzing water... the best growing medium for dwc system is hydroton (clay balls).. you can use gravel but it has to be washed alot ,clay balls are perfered as there lighter and are sterile

http://discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=362&navid=34

http://discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=379&navid=48

your easiest way to build a dwc system is with ......" 5 " gallon buckets and the areo lids :

http://discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=383&navid=48
and thease " 6 " inche pot lids:
http://discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=384&navid=48


when building a dwc system you also need an air pump and air line and a air stone..when choosing a pump dont get anything less than 50litre per hour /per bucket

the pump
http://discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=545&navid=8
air line
http://discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=367&navid=8
air stone ( the "2" ..1 per bucket)
http://discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=548&navid=8

the hydroton grow medium you will need about 1-2 litlre per bucket ish.. i dont no this for certain as i dont know the pot dimensions
but you will need some jiffy pellets to start the seeds off in ..

http://www.amazon.com/Jiffy-Seed-Starter-Greenhouse-Pellets/dp/B000EHJN84/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1196636525&sr=8-7

this also comes with a propagator (humidity dome)that the seeds start in under either a cfl or a florecent light from a diy store

this is the kind of light you will need (the 400watt basic)
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=480&navid=53

if i were you id only start with 4 buckets /4 plants then you will learn more without being overrun by the maintence
1x 400 HPS light over 4 monster dwc-system plants running on 1 pump ..

thats the system and light .. next is ventalation
that means a grow fan .. thease are expensive for fans lol
but luckerly you will only need a 4 inche
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=295&navid=29
vortex are the best and you can sound proof them in a mdf box packed with duvet wodding or just reduce the speed with a lighting dimmer switch or a fan speed controller (same thing)

fan ducting
4 inche
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=305&navid=29

dont bother with ducting clips just use duct tape ...

and as a odour pretection u can either buy a carbon filter so the air out isnt smelly or get a ozone generator (cheaper) and use it anywhere loft or grow room

carbon filter 4 inche
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=211&navid=23

ozone genny
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=205&navid=23
or you can use both : ) depends on your cash situation

the other things you need are:
waterproof ph pen
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=405&navid=13
waterproof ec pen
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=405&navid=13

fertalizer :

http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=55&navid=12

canna aqua vega a 1Ltr and b 1Ltr (veg growth)
canna aqua flores a 1Ltr and b 1Ltr (flowering growth)

canna pk 13/14 (flowering superbloom..big buds : )
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=55&navid=12
the 1Ltr

ph down 1Ltr ....do no get ph up!
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=528&navid=55

superthrive 4oz
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=139&navid=17

a digital thermometer
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=441&navid=13

2 grassin grounder timers (light and fan)
http://www.discount-hydro.com/productdisp.php?pid=66&navid=7

thats about it oh and the seeds ... put you off yet? lol

this will help #: )






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time2grow

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Message #17520 posted by time2grow (Info) December 02, 2007 19:17:29 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by george j warner (Info) December 02, 2007 18:45:24 ET

the items i already have are: i have grodan stonewool to start the seedlings off
in a little black dome i got, and i have a t5 light to start them til veg. when can i
start giving it superthrive? and i start feeding it when it gets first 3 sets of
leaves? they are in germination right now hope them open, these are just seeds
im practicing with, still need u to email me more on seeds. and i do need good
seeds asap. thanks george!!! please email about seeds soon, i have everything
else ready .




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george j warner

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Message #17521 posted by george j warner (Info) December 03, 2007 12:32:08 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by time2grow (Info) December 02, 2007 19:17:29 ET

fuck i just deleted the message ... again lol

about the seeds i'll email the situation

when the seeds crack if they do put them in the starter cubes with the white tail facing down .(tap root)

water the top (about 1 tea spoon each) put them in the humidity dome and put in the airing cupboard for 24 hours then get the light ready and put the humidity dome under the light about 10 inches above the top and close the air holes

when the sprouts hit the surface start watering 1 teaspoon (5ml)a day per cube .. keep the air holes closed until the proper leaves have come out (im not talking about the first set of leaves .. we call them pre leaves . we dont use the proper name (cotyledon) lol .. im sure there would be spelling issues if we did .then open the airholes half way .. then when the next set of leaves come out open the air holes fully but keep the seeds in the humidity dome ..

only give them water at this stage nothing else !!!
a young seedling is like a baby .when a baby is born they only have milk (water obviously for plants lol)
when they are old enough they have solid foods (ferts for plants ) only give a plant ferts when it reaches about 7inches or when it starts to go yellow lol .. slightly lightening to the leaves is a sure sign of not enough nitrogen which is the main element in veg ferts .

when the tap root exits the block at the bottom you can either put into a dwc system or put into a net pot with clay balls and keep hand watering when the root come out the bottom of the net pot you MUST put it into a system!

no ferts! and superthrive is a additive not a fert so only add 1 drop per litre from the point where the second set of leaves come out .

when you do start ferting its a while yet but when you do you have to start them on 25% of the strength on the back of the bottle (for canna its 10ml per liter so 2.5ml per litre.. it doesnt sound alot i know but trust me this is the easyiest way, then when they start stretching you give them half strength ... you only give them full strength when they reach 12 inches + (then their considered as mature)

laterz











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Message #17522 posted by george j warner (Info) December 03, 2007 12:55:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by george j warner (Info) December 03, 2007 12:32:08 ET

btw my email will show me as tim nashly .. was my name before gjw : ). but obiviously its not ma real name :) .. that "pope greggery the ninth"



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Message #17538 posted by trippruss (Info) December 31, 2007 18:43:29 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by george j warner (Info) December 03, 2007 12:55:51 ET

no



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Message #17539 posted by george j warner (Info) January 02, 2008 10:05:40 ET
In Reply to: Re: do i have enough space to yeild pounds? posted by trippruss (Info) December 31, 2007 18:43:29 ET

thanx trip ...lol



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