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Message #113278 posted by Torog (Info) March 14, 2008 06:28:59 ET


Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11

Obama's Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Has a History of What Even Obama's Campaign Aides Say Is 'Inflammatory Rhetoric'

By BRIAN ROSS and REHAB EL-BURI
March 13, 2008—
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4443230


Sen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America."

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."

In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.

Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.

Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon. "The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification," Obama said in a recent interview. "It sounds like he was trying to be provocative," Obama told the paper.

Rev. Wright, who announced his retirement last month, has built a large and loyal following at his church with his mesmerizing sermons, mixing traditional spiritual content and his views on contemporary issues.

"I wouldn't call it radical. I call it being black in America," said one congregation member outside the church last Sunday.

"He has impacted the life of Barack Obama so much so that he wants to portray that feeling he got from Rev. Wright onto the country because we all need something positive," said another member of the congregation.

Rev. Wright, who declined to be interviewed by ABC News, is considered one of the country's 10 most influential black pastors, according to members of the Obama campaign.

Obama has praised at least one aspect of Rev. Wright's approach, referring to his "social gospel" and his focus on Africa, "and I agree with him on that."

Sen. Obama declined to comment on Rev. Wright's denunciations of the United States, but a campaign religious adviser, Shaun Casey, appearing on "Good Morning America" Thursday, said Obama "had repudiated" those comments.

In a statement to ABCNews.com, Obama's press spokesman Bill Burton said, "Sen. Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they're offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church. Sen. Obama does not think of the pastor of his church in political terms. Like a member of his family, there are things he says with which Sen. Obama deeply disagrees. But now that he is retired, that doesn't detract from Sen. Obama's affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done."


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Re: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Blame f
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Message #113306 posted by imnother (Info) March 15, 2008 09:28:46 ET
In Reply to: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Blame f posted by Torog (Info) March 14, 2008 06:28:59 ET

the ole "C of C" strikes again.....that branch of protestantism sure ain't changed much in the last 50 years. sure glad my tapes in my brain have been changed.....wonder how much influence the C of C has over Obama?????? that concerns me almost as much as the muslim connection.



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Message #113309 posted by Higherminded (Info) March 15, 2008 09:59:32 ET
In Reply to: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Blame f posted by Torog (Info) March 14, 2008 06:28:59 ET

I don't think it's that big of a deal to be honest. He's just a preacher with an edge to him that likes to mouth off. There are alot of people in the world like that that are completely harmless. People are trying to drum up it into something so they can have some drama on Obama, they can't get it from him so they are going to the people he knows. Thats like saying Bush is a communist cuz the gas station attendant where he gets he gas from is Russian. Same logic.
The stuff he is saying about the profiteering from the criminalization of minorities is true. There is alot of money to be made from prisons and does factor into the economy.
best wishes,
HM




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Message #113313 posted by forged registration (Info) March 15, 2008 10:27:04 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Blame f posted by Higherminded (Info) March 15, 2008 09:59:32 ET

what kind of pastor talks like that in a church? the guy is entitled to his opinion, and i agree with him in principle, but i can't believe he would put on his vestments, stand on the altar, and represent god's hatred of america to his congregation (in front of a camera???)

if that's all they got on obama, he's going to sail into the white house...i'm not afraid of a guy who goes to a church with a nutty pastor in the belfry, but i am very concerned about a guy who says george bush is doing a heckuva job




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Message #113319 posted by Higherminded (Info) March 15, 2008 16:28:27 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Bla posted by forged registration (Info) March 15, 2008 10:27:04 ET

what kind of pastor talks like that in a church?

- a black pastor with somewhat of an ego I am guessing. Alot more people know about him now than ever before. Probably won't hurt his church any, not in the long run anyway. I imagine there are quite a few nutty pastors out there, few that make it to primetime tho.

best wishes,
HM




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Message #113324 posted by hempity (Info) March 15, 2008 17:06:00 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Bla posted by forged registration (Info) March 15, 2008 10:27:04 ET

I think he is right, and what better place for a little truth than a church?
This shit will never change until the u.s. stops believing that it owns the world.
Sovereignty for other countries is a thing of the past, the u.s. has it all, it takes it by force.
If we had more Pastors like this, I might even start supporting churches.




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Message #113335 posted by Torog (Info) March 16, 2008 06:39:37 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Blame f posted by imnother (Info) March 15, 2008 09:28:46 ET


Howdy imnother,

Now see,this the liberal version of the C of C that I complain about,when I say "we ain't the liberal Church of Christ"..our preacher wear suits or regular clothes and we don't use musical instruments and we don't allow un-repentant gays or any other openly unrepentant sinners into the church and we don't have women preachers.

The Navy classified me as protestant,but I ain't never called myself one..am I a protestant ? lol When they asked me,I said I was a member of the Church of Christ,not really a protestant,the feller just looked at me kinda funny and had protestant put on my dog tags..lol. He probably thought I was just a country bumpkin..lol.

Have a good one !



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Message #113340 posted by LeftyToker (Info) March 16, 2008 09:34:48 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Blame f posted by Torog (Info) March 16, 2008 06:39:37 ET


..Bottom line:
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..The whole story is a pile of worthless diversionary rubbish!
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..it's about as relevant and credible as saying 'Hilarys' husband Bill, once got a blow job in the oval office.How can we trust a president who couldnt even manage her own husband¨, and his penis?'
.
..I can hardly wait for the ultimate slime ad:

"It's 3:00 AM,,, the phone rings at the white house. it's your husband Bill,saying he will be home late because he went out for pizza and cigars"..who do want answering that call?"
.
..."hello.president Obama here.....oh hi Bill.
..you wanna talk to Hilary?,,hang on a minute,
,,uh, can I have her call you back?..
, she's under the desk in a blue velvet dress."
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Message #113343 posted by forged registration (Info) March 16, 2008 12:13:08 ET
In Reply to: Re: Obama's Pastor: God D*mn America, U.S. to Bla posted by hempity (Info) March 15, 2008 17:06:00 ET

hey hempity

a little truth in church is good, but a lot of politics in church is BAD...i get nervous when the winds of political change blow out of a church




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