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Elijah Mohammad

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Message #114543 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 13, 2008 16:20:37 ET

Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to "Wipe Israel off the Map"!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ




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Message #114546 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 13, 2008 20:01:10 ET
In Reply to: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel off th posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 13, 2008 16:20:37 ET

He said that the Zionist regime ruling there should be taken down, and that there should be a democratic system fully inclusive of the Palestinians there as well.



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Message #114548 posted by dana west (Info) May 13, 2008 21:26:50 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 13, 2008 20:01:10 ET

Elijah,
I believe you are correct!
My computer/connection is not capable of viewing your youtube link,
but I have little doubt that the truth was distorted,exagerated, and/or manipulated by the same media that lied about WMDs in Iraq!
r




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Message #114551 posted by Libertarian Toker (Info) May 13, 2008 23:21:50 ET
In Reply to: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel off th posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 13, 2008 16:20:37 ET

I been saying that for years. Look at all the media BS out there that says he did say that though, and then tell me who the media works for. Hell, torog thinks theres daily threats from Iran. A lot of people think there are daily threats. The only daily threats come from people like torog. They just don't realize thats what they are doing. I believe they really do believe they are doing the right thing.

Toker




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Message #114552 posted by dana west (Info) May 14, 2008 00:05:53 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel off th posted by Libertarian Toker (Info) May 13, 2008 23:21:50 ET


"I been saying that for years. Look at all the media BS out there that says he did say that though, and then tell me
who the media works for. Hell, torog thinks theres daily threats from Iran. A lot of people think there are daily
threats. The only d aily threats come from people like torog. They just don't realize thats what they are doing. I
believe they really do believe they are doing the right thing."

Right on Libertarian Toker.
You, and some other people have been saying alot of things for y ears, but it seems to fall upon deaf ears.
The day that Torog admits that you were right, I will donate $12.99 to the charity of Torogs' choice.

"..I believe they really do believe they are doing the right thing."

Yes, right on again!. That is the worst part about this whole thing: how can we blame, or look down on anyone who really believes they are right? After all, you and me believe we are right?, dont we?.
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I guess it has to do with "open minds".
We are all convinced that our point of view is correct,and that is good and normal.
However, it is not easy for any of us to keep an open mind.
Good talkers are a dime a dozen; Good listeners are more expensive than most can afford/?/
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(I strayed off track.I will post this as it is.I may have fucked myself due to the talker/listener theory I just talked about/?)
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Message #114555 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 14, 2008 02:21:26 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel off th posted by dana west (Info) May 14, 2008 00:05:53 ET

Wow, I think this is the only thread with complete agreement I've seen in a while....nice, it doesn't happen too often...good points guys. I will add that when holding views where you will be supporting killing people who have nothing to do with what you are killing for other than that they happen to be nearby, or killing people for anything other than a very serious and grave crime (and even then), you'd better be more than sure in belief that you are right...Dana, you and me, and Toker all do believe that we are right, but I don't recall any of us supporting and encouraging the murder of any innocent people in order to go forward with those beliefs. When you go so far as to do that, I think it goes beyond the realm of belief, into the realm of action. We can believe whatever we want, and shouldn't look down on one another, as long as those beliefs aren't put into action that is directly harming anyone...but when we cross into encouraging and calling for murder of innocent people, regardless of why, that is something I will look down on.



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Message #114560 posted by Torog (Info) May 14, 2008 07:42:36 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 14, 2008 02:21:26 ET


Howdy Elijah,

Islam was created by mohammed,for the express purpose of killing Jews and Christians and any other non-muslim religion or goverment.

Ahmadinejad,cannot be a good and faithful muslim,unless he's dedicated to that goal,holding a Holocaust Denial conference,is a sure sign that he wants to actually wipe Israel off of the earth. It is also the duty of every muslim,to lie and decieve the infidels,kafirs,people of the Book,etc-in order to accomplish the original reason for creating Islam.

Israel is gonna be celebrating 60 years of being a State,and many muslim countries still won't recognize Israel as a State,so until they do - why should we believe that they aren't hell-bent on destroying Israel and killing all Jews ?

Have a good one ...


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Message #114565 posted by forged registration (Info) May 14, 2008 10:35:32 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by Torog (Info) May 14, 2008 07:42:36 ET

"Islam was created by mohammed,for the express purpose of killing Jews and Christians and any other non-muslim religion or goverment."

- where did you learn that? one could conclude the same thing about judeo-christianity by reading the old testament, but the modern reality is a lot different



"Israel is gonna be celebrating 60 years of being a State,and many muslim countries still won't recognize Israel as a State,so until they do - why should we believe that they aren't hell-bent on destroying Israel and killing all Jews ?"

- about 3 dozen countries do not have diplomatic relations with israel, but that doesn't mean that 3 dozen governments are hell bent on destroying israel and killing all the jews...if you look at the raw numbers, israeli jews have killed a *lot* more muslims than the number of jews killed by muslims...the leading killer of muslims in the world is the united states, so why should your fundie muslim counterparts believe that christian america isn't hell bent on destroying islam and killing all muslims? you and bin laden think alike!




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Message #114569 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 14, 2008 14:36:36 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by forged registration (Info) May 14, 2008 10:35:32 ET

Yeah, Torog, since you have not, and refuse to ever read the Quran, how do you know anything about Islam or Mohammed? Being someone who HAS read the Quran, I am going to expressly disagree with you. The Quran never commands Muslims to kill all Jews, Christians, and anyone of other faiths. Now, there is a part that your "freeper" friends may be twisting around, where it talks about killing all people of other faiths who are fighting against you, and have refused to cease....but never to kill any innocent people, never to kill yourself, and never to kill those who have made peace with you. Now, I know the Bible says not to kill innocent people (what ever happened to obeying the Word of God, Torog?), but the Quran is superior in this respect in going even further, and saying that you should not commit suicide, and you should not kill those who have made peace with you. Don't you agree with all those things as well though, Torog?



You also accept your "freeper" propaganda about what the Quran says about lying, I see. The only exception the Quran makes for when lying is OK is to save your own life or freedom, or the lives and freedom of others. Doesn't the Bible also commend lying for this purpose alone with the example of Rahab? There are also a few other portions with similar "white" lies. Jesus even told one to his disciples. They asked if he was going to a festival they were all going to, and he said he was not going....but he only told them that so that nobody would know he would be there, so he could conceal himself, as the Pharisees and other leaders were seeking to kill him...and he went in secret.




Ahmadinejad questions the popular history of the holocaust....so what? Why should questioning an area of history that is so lacking in publicly available data be akin to planning a genocide? In the entire history of Iran/Persia, I know of no instance where they perpetrated any genocide. They, also, are one of the most peaceful countries in the world, never having attacked another country in over a hundred years. America and Europe(the "Holy" Roman Empire), on the other hand, has a RECENT history (the past five hundred years) brimming with genocide and support of genocide.



The USA didn't recognize Afghanistan's government, along with many other countries....does this mean that the USA and all of those other countries were planning genocide for Afghanis? Or did they just not support that regime (the Taliban), and want to change it, and have a more democratic government? Well, that's the same thing Ahmadinejad advocates in Israel, regime change and democracy....NOT genocide.



This next part is for you, Forged....you write, "the leading killer of muslims in the world is the united states, so why should your fundie muslim counterparts believe that christian america isn't hell bent on destroying islam and killing all muslims? you and bin laden think alike!"



There's a reason they both think alike....and listen up, Torog, because you really need to address and clean this up with yourself, IT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE BOTH TRAINED BY THE CIA! And you can relax, Torog, because I'm not attacking you in particular....I was trained by the CIA as well....just like pretty much everyone in America....Bin Laden was trained directly by them...we were trained indirectly, and "passively," but we were all trained by them....the question is, can you get past this training, learn to see their mind control in action, and think independently of them?




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Message #114660 posted by peace frog (Info) May 19, 2008 23:00:04 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 14, 2008 14:36:36 ET

mind control? should i start wearing a foil hat?

ps. the OSS trained me not to listen to the CIA, so i'm not CIA trained like you
chump :)




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Message #114680 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 20, 2008 19:41:49 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by peace frog (Info) May 19, 2008 23:00:04 ET

Nope, no tin foil hat necessary, just trust in God, and a firm meditation. You WERE trained by the CIA, however, like most of us, which is what I said....I also was trained not to listen to the CIA, after I gained a good amount of knowledge on how they work and what they are about. If you are out name-calling, though, I have questions as to how effective your "training" was. Also, the name you picked is a pretty CIA sounding name, as I covered in another post, which I haven't seen an answer to yet. Who is the OSS, by the way? I will look it up, and probably have an answer before you tell me, but I was just wondering.....for a better course in mind-control defeat, and understanding what is going on in society, I'd recommend http://www.hashemsfilms.com


Peace to those who make it,
Elijah




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Message #114694 posted by peace frog (Info) May 21, 2008 11:45:08 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 20, 2008 19:41:49 ET

ok, i'll bite, how was i trained by the CIA. i can see where your goin with it but
i do think my training sucked cuz im a social invalid with no filter on his
tongue and a massive problem with any authority figure. if thats what they
were goin for then they aced it.

hashemfilms seems to be down right now but i'll look later. arent these the
people though that think dick cheney is some kind of lizard that can shift his
shape?

peace frog is an obscure reference to the governmental oppression and
subsequent violence directed towards war protesters at the 1968 democratic
convention (peace frog is a doors song in part about this event).

the OSS is was the precursor to the CIA formed in dubya dubya 2.







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Message #114743 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 22, 2008 15:04:03 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by peace frog (Info) May 21, 2008 11:45:08 ET

Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that the training fully has stuck...it hasn't with me either....the trick is noticing that your head is being messed with, then it doesn't work quite the same anymore.



I just checked Hashemsfilms and it is up and running. They don't think that Dick Cheney is one of these things exactly, though he may be possessed by one (a Jinn, or, Demon, which often take the form of reptiles) Saying that they believe Dick Cheney is really some kind of Lizard would be like saying that you really believe you are some sort of Frog...it's just a representation of other things going on. It has a lot of info on what I just posted to you in a post further up on the boards explaining about how the elite use magic and sorcery to control society, and that it has been going on since the beginning, they are doing the same things as Egypt was in its ancient sorcery and beliefs, but more high tech....It gives info on who, what, why, where, when, how of all of this, and also of the opposition of it.



Cool, didn't know that part of the history of your name. I'm going to have to look more into that song and group, because I know that "peace frog" is an extremely strange and contradictory statement to make from a Revelation perspective....the frog represents the spirits put in the mouths of the world leaders to deceive and convince and gather men to war, specifically, the ultimate war.



You were trained by the precursor to the CIA?




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Message #114745 posted by peace frog (Info) May 22, 2008 15:24:15 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 22, 2008 15:04:03 ET

umm, i can't say i believe in sorcery or magic. i'm not really sure where you're
coming from. but, i guess one more reason to claw my way to one of the elite

and you still dont really say when the CIA trained me. government schools? TV?
movies? assuming i am not under a witches spell or having voices beemed into
my head, when have i had contact with the central intelligence agency.




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Message #114753 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 22, 2008 23:32:19 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by peace frog (Info) May 22, 2008 15:24:15 ET

"and you still dont really say when the CIA trained me. government schools? TV?
movies? assuming i am not under a witches spell or having voices beemed into
my head, when have i had contact with the central intelligence agency."





You nailed it right on the head....I knew I didn't have to tell you.




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