Elijah Mohammad
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Message #114569 posted by Elijah Mohammad (Info) May 14, 2008 14:36:36 ET
In Reply to: Re: Ahmadinejad DID NOT Threaten to Wipe Israel of posted by forged registration (Info) May 14, 2008 10:35:32 ET
Yeah, Torog, since you have not, and refuse to ever read the Quran, how do you know anything about Islam or Mohammed? Being someone who HAS read the Quran, I am going to expressly disagree with you. The Quran never commands Muslims to kill all Jews, Christians, and anyone of other faiths. Now, there is a part that your "freeper" friends may be twisting around, where it talks about killing all people of other faiths who are fighting against you, and have refused to cease....but never to kill any innocent people, never to kill yourself, and never to kill those who have made peace with you. Now, I know the Bible says not to kill innocent people (what ever happened to obeying the Word of God, Torog?), but the Quran is superior in this respect in going even further, and saying that you should not commit suicide, and you should not kill those who have made peace with you. Don't you agree with all those things as well though, Torog?
You also accept your "freeper" propaganda about what the Quran says about lying, I see. The only exception the Quran makes for when lying is OK is to save your own life or freedom, or the lives and freedom of others. Doesn't the Bible also commend lying for this purpose alone with the example of Rahab? There are also a few other portions with similar "white" lies. Jesus even told one to his disciples. They asked if he was going to a festival they were all going to, and he said he was not going....but he only told them that so that nobody would know he would be there, so he could conceal himself, as the Pharisees and other leaders were seeking to kill him...and he went in secret.
Ahmadinejad questions the popular history of the holocaust....so what? Why should questioning an area of history that is so lacking in publicly available data be akin to planning a genocide? In the entire history of Iran/Persia, I know of no instance where they perpetrated any genocide. They, also, are one of the most peaceful countries in the world, never having attacked another country in over a hundred years. America and Europe(the "Holy" Roman Empire), on the other hand, has a RECENT history (the past five hundred years) brimming with genocide and support of genocide.
The USA didn't recognize Afghanistan's government, along with many other countries....does this mean that the USA and all of those other countries were planning genocide for Afghanis? Or did they just not support that regime (the Taliban), and want to change it, and have a more democratic government? Well, that's the same thing Ahmadinejad advocates in Israel, regime change and democracy....NOT genocide.
This next part is for you, Forged....you write, "the leading killer of muslims in the world is the united states, so why should your fundie muslim counterparts believe that christian america isn't hell bent on destroying islam and killing all muslims? you and bin laden think alike!"
There's a reason they both think alike....and listen up, Torog, because you really need to address and clean this up with yourself, IT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE BOTH TRAINED BY THE CIA! And you can relax, Torog, because I'm not attacking you in particular....I was trained by the CIA as well....just like pretty much everyone in America....Bin Laden was trained directly by them...we were trained indirectly, and "passively," but we were all trained by them....the question is, can you get past this training, learn to see their mind control in action, and think independently of them?
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