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Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patients
villageidiot

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Message #173370 posted by villageidiot (Info) March 15, 2008 10:25:35 ET

New study of cannabis compound helps memory loss for Alzheimer's patients...

Posted: March 12, 2008 05:16 PM EDT

Updated: March 12, 2008 05:16 PM EDT

NATIONAL - Using marijuana to help improve memory may seem like an oxymoron, because the drug is known to cause short-term memory loss. But experiments on mice have shown the drug can actually improve an Alzheimer's patient's memory. And there are now plans to begin trials on humans.

A plant so controversial for its mind altering qualities - cannabis - better known as marijuana. But it's exciting experts about its possible clinical benefits.

One of the compounds in the plant is about to be tested in human trials to see if it can delay the onset of memory loss. Professor Tony Moffat says, "Cannabis as it is normally smoked has mind-blowing properties and there are compounds in there which has these hallucinogenic properties. However, some of the indications for Alzheimer's in a mouse model is just a single compound that's used from cannabis plant material which is extracted and it can stop the memory loss. Now if you take that single compound and apply it to humans in clinical trials, we could prove for those 400,000 Alzheimer's patients that it could be used for those."

Studies of mice have shown that the cannabis derivative, which is not hallucinogenic, can prevent the progression to memory loss of Alzheimer's disease.

For patients with this devastating degenerative condition, the chance to take part in the clinical trial may offer their best hope. Dr. Suzanne Sorenson of the Alzheimer's Society says, "I'm sure there will be people who want to enter the trial. The treatment opportunities for Alzheimer's disease are so few, it is incurable. The drugs that exist at the moment aren't suitable for everybody. So there being other drugs available, I'm sure will be a positive thing for patients."

So it's interesting that medicine to protect nerve cells in the brain may be made from from a plant known to be damaging to the mind.




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Message #173373 posted by stonemind (Info) March 15, 2008 12:49:21 ET
In Reply to: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patients posted by villageidiot (Info) March 15, 2008 10:25:35 ET

Here is a point to ponder for you - There are no cannabis growers-users anywhere on the planet who have alzheimers! Feel free to prove that wrong, in the past two years we have been asking that question between the worlds, folks who smoke daily, simply do not get this disease.
T




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Message #173376 posted by Higherminded (Info) March 15, 2008 16:14:52 ET
In Reply to: Re: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patie posted by stonemind (Info) March 15, 2008 12:49:21 ET

I think but am not sure that these studies are based on the CBD cannabonoid, a cannabonoid that i think is more prevalent in indicas. Don't quote me on that though. This particular cannabonoid has an antiflammatory effect, which is one of the things that leads to alzheimers in the brain.
best wishes,
HM




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Message #173389 posted by villageidiot (Info) March 16, 2008 20:28:04 ET
In Reply to: Re: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patie posted by Higherminded (Info) March 15, 2008 16:14:52 ET

Highermined,
I agree I don't know what the exact compound that the study is extracting from cannabis but this study underscores the benefits that cannabis which holds over 400 compounds has more benefits for human health that have not been thourghly explored because of the big pharma companies monopoly on our government and general attitude for a more natural treatments that are contradictory to the synthetic drug treatments that are pushed by large pharma compainies who make very large profits at the expense of the general public.




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Message #173400 posted by Higherminded (Info) March 17, 2008 07:36:51 ET
In Reply to: Re: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patie posted by villageidiot (Info) March 16, 2008 20:28:04 ET

Big Pharma sucks ass as far as I am concerned! Number one profit company in the world. You guys ever notice how the nightly news is sponsored by 50 different drug companies?
best wishes,
HM




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Message #173403 posted by Dabullz (Info) March 17, 2008 08:36:49 ET
In Reply to: Re: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patie posted by Higherminded (Info) March 17, 2008 07:36:51 ET

While I avoid pharmaceuticals like the plaque, I think the reasons to vilify the
corporations themselves are bit short-sighted.

The companies spend, on average, $360,000,000 to get a drug from the lab
to the shelf. Of course they need to be profitable - the idea that profit is
"bad" is absurd BTW.

There are thousands of examples of life saving/altering drugs on the market.
Many folks here take prescriptions that prove to be literally life saving and
add tremendously to the quality of life of not only them, but their loved ones.

AIDS anti-retroviral drugs have lifted the "death sentence" that was the most
certain outcome of contraction of that disease. Millions and millions and
millions of folks who otherwise would have died now live.

DB







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Message #173414 posted by Higherminded (Info) March 17, 2008 20:48:22 ET
In Reply to: Re: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patie posted by Dabullz (Info) March 17, 2008 08:36:49 ET

DB I understand that some of what big pharma produces does good things. I will assume by your statement you are stereotyping my liberalism. My reason for hating big pharma comes from both an educated one and personal experience. The disease that I have is controlled by big pharma. They dictate what the disease is, what the treatment is and what is succesful or not by serving on the committees, both national and international, that determines the correct treatment. They sign a piece of paper which states they are "aware" of the conflict of interest.

The correct treatment as it is stated in the 21st century, is to suggest hormone therapy, a shot that messes with a part of your brain and costs $600 a month, (a portion of which the doctor recieves as commission) the side effects of this are numerous, such as softening of the bones and teeth, hair loss, bleeding, osteoporosis, infertility, hot flashes etc. (The side effects are suffered by a number of women, it's not just a random few, the lawsuits are evidence of that) The drug, if it works, is temporary. Big Pharma (I am leaving out the name of the particular drug company at this time) also suggests that if that doesn't work to perform laser ablation and/or castration in extreme cases. (Although castration does not remove the disease, but who is counting) Should symptoms still persist, which for some it will depending on how advanced the disease has become and the very fact the disease itself has not been removed, the methodology is to blame the patient, that is suggest it's all in the patient's head. So basically if their drug doesn't work, and castration doesn't fix it, call the women suffering crazy. I guess we haven't got out of the witch hunt mentality just as yet. The fact too is that there are other treatments out there, proven more successful, but they manage to keep that info out of the committee sessions as well cuz it don't involve drugs...(it's called excision, ie cutting the disease out, if anyone is curious).

So I understand that some of medicine is miraculous and the fact that we can clone sheep is great. But some medicine is still in the dark ages, and there are women out there that are suffering simply because a drug company is selling pain for profit.
That's my thought and rant on the matter.
best wishes,
HM




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Message #173438 posted by Dabullz (Info) March 19, 2008 08:01:24 ET
In Reply to: Re: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patie posted by Higherminded (Info) March 17, 2008 20:48:22 ET

"you are stereotyping my liberalism"

I did not intend to do that and I apologize if you felt that way. Profit is good
for everyone, especially liberals, otherwise what would they tax? :P

I appreciate your frustration as it is founded on very real day-to-day
suffering. I hope you find solace quickly and one of the reasons I avoid
pharmaceuticals is I share your deep distrust. However, I also know that
many of the drugs produced have alleviated an immeasurable amount of
human misery.

DB




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Message #173439 posted by Higherminded (Info) March 19, 2008 08:49:59 ET
In Reply to: Re: Cannabis derivative may help Alzheimer's patie posted by Dabullz (Info) March 19, 2008 08:01:24 ET

Hi DB, sorry if I came off harsh. Didn't mean too. lol @ tax btw. I think it's smart to avoid pharmaceuticals if you can. But you are right, alot of drugs do alleviate misery. I just don't think the drug companies should get control over the disease, it's not healthy, if that makes sense.

I thought this series about big pharma was interesting, a good documentary about the business:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hh99CN5tLrc&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rdh9_Uz6cIs&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e_o2YtAUA4o&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dix4Q44LFaA&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MRm5VFyMQXU&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IVDTo8Rm1rE&feature=related

best wishes,
HM




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