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clones from clones no need mothers experts only

vica1972 Registered on Nov-16-2002 More User Info Message #43729 posted by vica1972 (Info) October 15, 2007 17:41:52 ET Hi I have 4 mothers which i am taking clones.This time i cut clones like always(60 which i leave only 48 for flowering) i am waiting until clones become 30cm and I put them flowering. But this time before to put them flowering I cut clones from them. Around 70clones and now i have around 60 strong rooted plants. So my question is for what to keep this 4 mothers? Since i can cut clones from plants just before i put them on flowering. BUT CLONES from CLONES from CLONES all the time will my plants will stay good as the first generation of clones? PLEASE ONLY experts or people which they know for sure.

Re: clones from clones no need mothers experts only

Pureknowledge Registered on May-27-2003 More User Info Message #43730 posted by Pureknowledge (Info) October 15, 2007 22:24:14 ET In Reply to: clones from clones no need mothers experts only posted by vica1972 (Info) October 15, 2007 17:41:52 ET you will be fine, you could do that for 20 years

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george j warner Registered on Sep-02-2006 More User Info Message #43731 posted by george j warner (Info) October 16, 2007 06:49:12 ET In Reply to: Re: clones from clones no need mothers experts only posted by Pureknowledge (Info) October 15, 2007 22:24:14 ET lo pk and you can take clones from clones until the 21st generation after that the plants potency/plants power starts to reduce.you will still be able to clone but the strength /taste of the weed will reduce. if you have the space for a second room do it and just keep some mums in there in a dwc system then you will always have clones ready without the issue of potency/power reduction . hope this helps

Re: clones from clones no need mothers experts onl

george j warner Registered on Sep-02-2006 More User Info Message #43732 posted by george j warner (Info) October 16, 2007 06:52:12 ET In Reply to: Re: clones from clones no need mothers experts onl posted by george j warner (Info) October 16, 2007 06:49:12 ET or ..... do a feminized seed harvest then every 5/10th generation just start up some new seeds for mums or ..... change strain every 10 generations (this is my fave because its harder to track the weed back to the grower :)

Re: thanks thats help

vica1972 Registered on Nov-16-2002 More User Info Message #43733 posted by vica1972 (Info) October 16, 2007 17:07:09 ET In Reply to: Re: clones from clones no need mothers experts onl posted by george j warner (Info) October 16, 2007 06:52:12 ET thanks for helping me. Mothers i do not like because i am not good on bruning so its quit mess for me mothers. I will cut clones from clones and i hope everything will be fine. I do not have yet herms and i am growing my northen lights now for 2 years but until now i was keeping mothers.

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vica1972 Registered on Nov-16-2002 More User Info Message #43734 posted by vica1972 (Info) October 16, 2007 17:16:33 ET In Reply to: Re: clones from clones no need mothers experts onl posted by george j warner (Info) October 16, 2007 06:52:12 ET to start from seeds its a lot of troubles. wait to grow kill males,go out of country to bring seeds interenet to order its not worth i try 3 times and quility was shit!!!!!!, after chose the strongest and best quility etc Thats why i think clones is the best method but do not know for how long i can keep clones on high quility. (sorry for my english) anyway good luck and keep ppm levels low overfeed=death

Re:seeds is lot of troubles

george j warner Registered on Sep-02-2006 More User Info Message #43735 posted by george j warner (Info) October 17, 2007 06:34:41 ET In Reply to: Re:seeds is lot of troubles posted by vica1972 (Info) October 16, 2007 17:16:33 ET i meant YOU make the seeds and YOU MAKE THEM FEMINIZED.it isnt hard just keep 2 plants seperate from the rest stress the fuck out of 1 to turn it hermie like give it 36 hours of light then 36 hours of darkness 2 hours of light 4 hours of darkness 24 hours of light 3 hours of darkness etc ...it will turn it hermie fast (1). then get a cotton bud (like for cleaning out ya ears) and rub the pollen sacks then transfer the hermie pollen to the true female (2) mark the branches . 7/8 weeks later you got feminized seeds . so you dont every need to go out and buy some more ,no dodgy situations .. no custom issues ..no males , yes fine you have to not use nutes but if its for the sake that you always have a potent northern lights strain without having mums so be it . laterz

Re:seeds is lot of troubles

jon104 Registered on Dec-15-2005 More User Info Message #43736 posted by jon104 (Info) October 19, 2007 15:44:53 ET In Reply to: Re:seeds is lot of troubles posted by george j warner (Info) October 17, 2007 06:34:41 ET The only bad thing I have ever noticed from clones is leafier buds than from seed. Thats it, they stay great other than that!

Re:thanks here is my info any suggest........

vica1972 Registered on Nov-16-2002 More User Info Message #43737 posted by vica1972 (Info) October 19, 2007 16:46:08 ET In Reply to: Re:seeds is lot of troubles posted by jon104 (Info) October 19, 2007 15:44:53 ET Thanks guys for the nfo.Making seeds from herms its quit interesting never thought. Have you ever try this? You are right bubs have more leafs than first generation of clones.But i notice the quility is better everytime i have new clones.I hope it will keep going like this. Here is the flowering room of the 48 northen light plants on 19th day of flowering. and also the grow room. i try a lot of methods short plants-80 total/tall plants/medium plants i try different nutritions/boost products but The result is the same 1.3kg. As i see amound of light is the limiting factor and me i can not afford more lights i use 4x600w Hp for flowering and 2x400MH for growing.(I use hydro system of course)Electricity is around 800euro every 2months. Any ideas?

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vica1972 Registered on Nov-16-2002 More User Info Message #43738 posted by vica1972 (Info) October 19, 2007 16:49:00 ET In Reply to: Re:seeds is lot of troubles posted by jon104 (Info) October 19, 2007 15:44:53 ET here is clones rooted after 15days and transfer to 4" rockwool cubes

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george j warner Registered on Sep-02-2006 More User Info Message #43739 posted by george j warner (Info) October 20, 2007 13:43:12 ET In Reply to: Re:onother photo posted by vica1972 (Info) October 19, 2007 16:49:00 ET yes i have made feminized seeds ... its fun :) ... i bought some super silver haze and some blueberry seeds ages ago for £150 (about $300) thats 20 seeds .. and did a feminized seed crop got 140 SSH x blueberry feminized seeds back !!!!!!! off 1 plant : D

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vica1972 Registered on Nov-16-2002 More User Info Message #43740 posted by vica1972 (Info) October 20, 2007 18:03:39 ET In Reply to: Re: thanks thats help posted by vica1972 (Info) October 16, 2007 17:07:09 ET thanks I will try with one plant for fun.

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george j warner Registered on Sep-02-2006 More User Info Message #43741 posted by george j warner (Info) October 21, 2007 13:12:00 ET In Reply to: Re: thanks g.... posted by vica1972 (Info) October 20, 2007 18:03:39 ET technically specking you need 2 plants lol 1 as "the hermie" and 2 as the going to be impregnated "true female" that produces the seeds

Blind testing works

sanclem Premier Member Registered on Nov-16-2000 More User Info Message #43746 posted by sanclem (Info) October 25, 2007 19:52:54 ET In Reply to: Re: thanks g.... posted by george j warner (Info) October 21, 2007 13:12:00 ET I have friends that check my bud , so theres no bull shit. Its rough for them but someone has to do it. The reason for blind testing, My pot is better then yours. The price is to high I can get it cheaper and better I have even bought it at one price and sold it back to them, and theres was better than mine. It well worth the cost. YOU Can never grow the best pot, theres is always better even if its theirs. Usualy the plant will last about 5 years, then it assumes the growing conditions. If its a hot dri type of strain , its a bitch to keep the rh to 10 % , I like Hawiain (sp) do to the beach conditions where I live. I have gotten 12 years out of a HW . strain With 2 rooms its easy to keep it going and going

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